Author Topic: FRESH Spi'L't Milk (Read 27695 times)

Paul11372 · « **Reply #150 on:** April 24, 2018, 12:07:44 PM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 24, 2018, 11:24:42 AM

I object to being called pedantic -- and needlessly pedantic -- when we're having a discussion about entrepreneurship and being a small business owner. That's being needlessly rude.

Additionally, the CEO of Panera Bread is not an entrepreneur. Or rather, his role at Panera Bread is not as an entrepreneur, having joined the company in 2010 (Panera Bread goes back to the 1980s at least).

Depends on your meaning of the word "IS"

the80s · « **Reply #151 on:** April 24, 2018, 05:10:27 PM »

Quote from: ljr on April 19, 2018, 11:46:30 AM

Oh come on, buzzkills! Can't we have just one little bistro and one little health food place? Just a few more choices for those who for whatever reason would like to see more variety and one or two choices that are a step above existing options?

Along with Just Made 4 U, which is mentioned often on this thread, K&L Deli on 76th is great and has lots of healthy options: wraps, fresh salads, smoothies, etc. The people who work there are friendly and fast, delivery is reliable, and there are a few tables for eating in (though certainly no ambience). Their coffee is good too. I assume everyone already knows about it, because it's hard to miss, but K&L is more than it appears from the outside, and it's such a great neighborhood standby.

petster · « **Reply #152 on:** April 24, 2018, 06:13:36 PM »

100% agreed. K&L is my go to place for a quick "am" bite. The place is clean and the guys who work there are pretty nice and efficient. Definitely a great neighborhood place.

Alexnyc · « **Reply #153 on:** April 24, 2018, 07:57:34 PM »

I dont understand why people on this board always argue about the same thing. Would it be nice to have an american bistro, a gastropub, a salad place, an upscale dining place? ofcourse it would be! But its not emojis, arunees, arepa ladys or any of the other restaurants in the area fault. Keep supporting our local places and sooner or later "entrepreneurs" will see that there is money to be made in the neighborhood. Spilt milk jumped ship because the money wasnt there. there is no other reason why they didnt survive. Could it have been better? maybe, but they didnt have a chance to work out their kinks.

lalochezia · « **Reply #154 on:** April 24, 2018, 11:06:58 PM »

Quote from: Alexnyc on April 24, 2018, 07:57:34 PM

I dont understand why people on this board always argue about the same thing.

Welcome to the internet

Quote from: Alexnyc on April 24, 2018, 07:57:34 PM

. Spilt milk jumped ship because the money wasnt there. there is no other reason why they didnt survive.

How do you know this for a fact? Are you privvy to some insider info? Or is this just a wild-ass-guess?

Alexnyc · « **Reply #155 on:** April 25, 2018, 06:11:42 AM »

How do you know this for a fact? Are you privvy to some insider info? Or is this just a wild-ass-guess?
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Its not that difficult to meet and talk to owners.

CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #156 on:** April 25, 2018, 09:13:11 AM »

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Spilt milk jumped ship because the money wasnt there. there is no other reason why they didnt survive. Could it have been better? maybe, but they didnt have a chance to work out their kinks.

This is a pretty silly statement. If the business owners didn't have enough time to work out the kinks in their business, then there is another reason for why they didn't survive other than the money wasn't there: they didn't allow themselves enough time in their business plan to lose money for awhile before they established themselves. A restaurant - and many other types of small businesses - needs to be prepared to lose money for awhile before they break even, and then start to make some money.

Alexnyc · « **Reply #157 on:** April 25, 2018, 09:32:55 AM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 25, 2018, 09:13:11 AM

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Spilt milk jumped ship because the money wasnt there. there is no other reason why they didnt survive. Could it have been better? maybe, but they didnt have a chance to work out their kinks.

This is a pretty silly statement. If the business owners didn't have enough time to work out the kinks in their business, then there is another reason for why they didn't survive other than the money wasn't there: they didn't allow themselves enough time in their business plan to lose money for awhile before they established themselves. A restaurant - and many other types of small businesses - needs to be prepared to lose money for awhile before they break even, and then start to make some money.

How is that silly?
Its silly to assume that people dont make mistakes.
So you think stew or the Queensboro planned on being closed for that long. Even the arepa lady has had posession of city coffe since January. Like I said go and ask the owners.

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CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #158 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:26:52 AM »

^I really don't understand your confusion with what I'm pointing out was silly about your statement. In the space of two sentences you stated that "the only reason" the business didn't survive was because the money wasn't there, and then contradicted yourself by stating that the business owners didn't have enough time to work out the kinks of the business.

If the business owners didn't allow themselves enough time to work out the kinks of the business (or plan for a net loss for X amount of time before turning a profit), that demonstrates that there was another possible reason the business didn't survive other than the money not being there: poor planning. As you yourself stated, had the business owner planned for more time to work out the kinks of the business, he or she might have been able to find the money.

Alexnyc · « **Reply #159 on:** April 25, 2018, 12:05:10 PM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 25, 2018, 10:26:52 AM

^I really don't understand your confusion with what I'm pointing out was silly about your statement. In the space of two sentences you stated that "the only reason" the business didn't survive was because the money wasn't there, and then contradicted yourself by stating that the business owners didn't have enough time to work out the kinks of the business.

If the business owners didn't allow themselves enough time to work out the kinks of the business (or plan for a net loss for X amount of time before turning a profit), that demonstrates that there was another possible reason the business didn't survive other than the money not being there: poor planning. As you yourself stated, had the business owner planned for more time to work out the kinks of the business, he or she might have been able to find the money.

how is that a contardiction?
He wasnt making enough money therefore he didnt have enough time to workout the kinks. Go debate with him. Good day.

CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #160 on:** April 25, 2018, 12:37:16 PM »

^anyone who closes up shop within just a few months because they weren't making enough money hasn't developed a proper business plan. If you don't understand how that contradicts your statement that the only reason was that the money wasn't there, when in the very next sentence you stated another reason -- the business owner did not allow him or herself time to work out the kinks of the business -- there's nothing I can do to correct a lack of critical thinking skills.

There's either only one reason (no money) or other possibilities (not have a business plan that allows time for working out the kinks in the business in order to turn a profit.)

Alexnyc · « **Reply #161 on:** April 25, 2018, 01:08:39 PM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 25, 2018, 12:37:16 PM

^anyone who closes up shop within just a few months because they weren't making enough money hasn't developed a proper business plan. If you don't understand how that contradicts your statement that the only reason was that the money w
why do you continue personal attacks?
The reason I am making these statements is because I know what im talking about. He wasnt making any money period! He took longer than expected to open. People make mistakes. What do you not understand. would you like me to give his number so you can teach him how you open and run a business since you seem to have so much experience.

CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #162 on:** April 25, 2018, 01:27:04 PM »

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why do you continue personal attacks?

I am not making a personal attack. I stating a flaw in your reasoning.

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The reason I am making these statements is because I know what im talking about. He wasnt making any money period! He took longer than expected to open. People make mistakes.

Indeed, people do make mistakes. If the business wasn't making a money, it wasn't necessarily because there wasn't any money to be made. What you are describing is a lack of a business plan, yet what you have stated was the only reason the business failed was because there was no money to be made. New businesses have to be prepared to *lose* money for awhile, with a solid plan to build their business, identify inefficiencies, and build a customer base. None of what you have described indicates the only reason the business failed was because there wasn't money to be made by the business. What you have described is a lack of a business plan, and insufficient resources to weather the lean times as one launches a new business.

I do know a bit about business. I know about business plans. And I do know that 60% of restaurants fail within the first year. Which is a pretty good reason to have a solid business plan in place before launching. https://articles.bplans.com/start-successful-restaurant-guide/

"You’ll need three pools of money. The first pool is for one-time costs like equipment (check out this calculator to help you figure out startup costs). The second pool is to cover the restaurant expenses for at least six months, and the third pool is to cover your personal bills for at least six months. You’ll want to have at least six months of cushion because you’ll probably find that your expenses outpace your revenue for at least that long."

jeanette · « **Reply #163 on:** April 25, 2018, 01:34:31 PM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 25, 2018, 01:27:04 PM

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why do you continue personal attacks?

...there wasn't any money to be made.

...there wasn't any money to be made...is NOT what poster alexny wrote, or even implied.

silly

pedantic

rude

oh, the outrage

CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #164 on:** April 25, 2018, 01:36:42 PM »

^Yes it was:

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