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Do you plan to use the facilities at Diversity Plaza once it is done?

Yes, I plan to sit, eat, read a paper, use the internet
13 (23.2%)
Yes, to walk pass it on the way to the subway
16 (28.6%)
No, I will try to avoid the area as too many homeless
5 (8.9%)
No, I think it a waste of 5 million of taxpayers money
22 (39.3%)

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Offline dssjh

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2018, 05:31:32 PM »
no one is forcing you to live in your imaginary third world hell.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2018, 06:07:44 PM »
Quote from: JK resident on March 30, 2018, 05:27:57 PM
Silly hypersensitive people want to claim the other is racist because they do not accept to live with 3rd world sanitation standards. Few remember the how clean the area used to be in the 1970’s. If you go to midtown Manhattan and operate a business in these manners, you would shut down in a week. Here because we live in the outer borough of Queens we have to be subjected to this Kabuki theatre of our local politicians showing us the plans of this Plaza and expect us to fawn over them as if we just saw the world of wonder. The bar is set so low and we all go to different parts of NYC where residents really have a quality of life.

Well, the Manhattan chinatown is also very dirty.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2018, 09:57:28 PM »
I work near Penn Station it's a dump. I'd take our plaza over that mess any day. I'm really glad to see this happen and think it will be a great addition to the neighborhood (but I may be one of the uncivilized people that some of you would prefer not to see). It's a PUBLIC Plaza. Everyone should be welcome.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2018, 10:01:47 PM »
Quote from: sl on March 30, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Quote from: JK resident on March 30, 2018, 05:27:57 PM


Well, the Manhattan chinatown is also very dirty.

so is central park.
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Offline Alfster

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2018, 10:12:33 PM »
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I don't see any racist post here.

Then you aren't very good at identifying subtext.

On a separate note, have you considering writing one post instead four?

No, I see the subtext just fine.  However, Civilized people applies to how one behaves in society and that is not based on race.  For example, we shouldn't consider all those who live in a first world country such as the US to be civilized.  At the same time, not all people living in a third world country should be consider to be uncivilized. 
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Offline Gordan

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2018, 12:08:49 AM »
Quote from: JK resident on March 30, 2018, 05:27:57 PM
Silly hypersensitive people want to claim the other is racist because they do not accept to live with 3rd world sanitation standards. Few remember the how clean the area used to be in the 1970’s. If you go to midtown Manhattan and operate a business in these manners, you would shut down in a week. Here because we live in the outer borough of Queens we have to be subjected to this Kabuki theatre of our local politicians showing us the plans of this Plaza and expect us to fawn over them as if we just saw the world of wonder. The bar is set so low and we all go to different parts of NYC where residents really have a quality of life.

Wow! lamenting 1970's New York. Interesting choice for an ideal period in the cities history.
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Offline JK resident

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2018, 12:49:47 AM »
Actually not really. While NYC was in an economic downturn in the 1970’s, Jackson Heights in period of time was home to a higher socioeconomic class. Later as Jackson Heights became the center of the drug trade and money laundering with many stores acting as fronts, the upper middle class left. Stores on 82nd street would cater to a different client base. In addition Jackson Heights became home to many more South Asian and Hispanic populations. The 73 and 74th section would be unrecognizable to current residents. So yes Jackson Heights was better off in the 1970’s.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2018, 08:43:15 AM »
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Silly hypersensitive people want to claim the other is racist because they do not accept to live with 3rd world sanitation standards.

racist gaslightlighting troll is racist & a gaslighting tool.
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Offline Miss Chatelaine

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2018, 09:30:15 AM »
Quote from: JK resident on March 31, 2018, 12:49:47 AM
The 73 and 74th section would be unrecognizable to current residents. So yes Jackson Heights was better off in the 1970’s.
That was 40 years ago (I remember it) The lower 70s were cut loose once the historic district was declared and were mostly ignored for decades. New people moved in and the area developed a completely new identity. Like it or not, it's a well-established reality over a really long period of time.

I agree the businesses should do more to clean up after their customers, and around their establishments regardless, but it's completely different community than what some people here are apparently longing for and it's time to move on, one way or another.  Cities, and the world, evolves and it's only going to get more "unrecognizable" as developers come in and start building on more of the sites. It's too bad ya'll didn't buy up all that land and create your vision of upper middle class paradise when you had the chance.

I'm grateful for all the work the city has done down there with traffic control and now making a big investment in the plaza, all of it in response to the community. Between that, Dromm bringing in an organization to clean (first the Doe Fund now ACE) and the work of other groups, and yes, the diversity, there is much to appreciate in the present day.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2018, 10:12:33 AM »
I am also appreciative of the city's investment in the neighborhood.

It's positive.

Thanks, NYC.
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2018, 12:27:26 PM »
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Later as Jackson Heights became the center of the drug trade and money laundering with many stores acting as fronts, the upper middle class left. Stores on 82nd street would cater to a different client base. In addition Jackson Heights became home to many more South Asian and Hispanic populations. The 73 and 74th section would be unrecognizable to current residents. So yes Jackson Heights was better off in the 1970’s.

Can you spot the racism?

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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2018, 02:52:45 PM »
From Wikipedia on Jackson Heights:

The Latino demographics caused controversy in the 1970s, when many drug cartels were selling drugs, even though most people were not actually affected by it. While some media sources placed culpability on the wire transfer stores along Roosevelt Avenue as vestiges of the drug-selling, these stores were actually useful to the community.[54] Latino clubs and bars on the avenue were also pointed to as evidence, though most were just places for typical Latino immigrants to hang out.[54]

I guess people are afraid of the truth. Isn’t it getting old always playing the race card?
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Re: Work commencing on Diversity Plaza
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2018, 04:06:06 PM »
^doesn't it get old always being a racist, gaslighting troll?
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Diversity Plaza
« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2018, 05:52:57 AM »
I am interested to find out the overall opinion of the new Diversity Plaza. Please be honest about your intended use.
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Re: Diversity Plaza
« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2018, 08:10:25 AM »
 I am very thankful of the city's investment in Diversity Plaza.

I intend to use it.

I am not frightened of people who are different from me.  Like the homeless.

I am a New Yorker!

Heck, if I were scared of the homeless, I would never use the subway...

There are many gated communities around the country. Even in Queens. Folks are very free to choose to move to them if  New York is confronting.







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