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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 12:02:58 PM »
It's funny to even think of the amount of traffic that a supermarket would make especially if the customers come in part from outside the neighborhood. Oddly
enough it's the change in traffic patterns with buses that makes this even remotely possible, though a really bad idea, for 37th road and the Plaza. As soon as
really warm weather comes and some events are planned the Plaza, my prediction is that it will become a performing asset for the neighborhood, literally and figuratively. Sorry also about the Eagle's demise as with so many other theaters in the area.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 06:45:30 PM »
I think the last thing we need here is another south asian supermarket. My suggestion would be a german beer garden for that space and to beautify the plaza like manhattan.

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 09:31:39 PM »
it's a little small for a beer garden (and there's not one speck of 'garden' outside, so that makes the point kinda moot).

and as far as comparisons to manhattan, it really doesn't look very different than herald square -- same crappy furniture, a little less trash.

i would like to see a couple trees planted, though.

I think the last thing we need here is another south asian supermarket. My suggestion would be a german beer garden for that space and to beautify the plaza like manhattan.

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2012, 04:25:11 PM »
For a while I heard a Rite-Aid was going to open up there. Yet another grocery store we don't need...

Does anyone know what's being constructed half a block up on 73rd near the Readypenny?  There's a big hole in the dirt and lots of work going on.

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2012, 07:11:56 PM »
best guess? another of those five floor mall type things. the same people who bought the nice old house that stood there bought two nice old houses directly across the street, where those neon-sign dominated office warrens now stand. that half of the block was really lovely in the misty past of 1998 or so.

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2012, 10:32:09 AM »
Aren't we trying to improve the traffic congestion?

Everyone knows that the biggest factor of the congestion is that shoppers for 73rd, 74th streets area from outside of jackson heights.
And most of JH residents will not go and shop at this South Asian market.

so what is the point?

You really have to realize that those mechants are just greedy.  They only care about making money using space in our community and yet not care about our community.  We have asked the merchants to hire sanitation workers to keep their streets clean but they keep REJECTING US because they don't want to spend any money for our community.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2012, 11:13:07 AM »
"greedy" and "merchants" go together like "burgers" and "fries" or "sonny" and "cher."

not arguing your point at all, just saying that the merchant that will cede pure profit to improve the lives of people he or she doesn't know, and who -- as you've implied here -- don't patronize his or her stomerre, would be a rare bird indeed.
most merchants are in business to make a profit, not to make neighbors' lives better. it's been that way for centuries, if not millennia. i wish we could change human nature.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2012, 01:39:33 PM »
There are many merchants in other neighborhood to form BID and hire sanitation workers to keep their area clean.

and if more residents are actually shopping in that area, it could build good relationship between merchants and community.

but in our case, the merchants are specifically selling products for shoppers from outside Jackson Heights.

They rejected to keep their store front clean despite the community's request.

Therefore,  it gives us an impression that those merchants just comes to our neighborhood and make money and leave the mess.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2012, 01:53:50 PM »
I shop frequently at Patel Brothers!

I don't think this is a case of US and THEM at all.

Before the theater was the Eagle, it was the Earle. For years and years, it was a porn theater. Then that  was closed for years before it became the Eagle.

Would you prefer the Earle's clientele to people who are actually bringing money into the neighborhood?

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2012, 05:49:16 PM »
koku

for some reason, you seem to think jackson heights has no south asian residents.

or, perhaps, that no white, black, latin, korean, eskimo or samoan people shop at these establishments.

you've spewed your veiled racism a number of times and then run off, tail between your legs, saying 'oh, golly gee, i didn't say anything specific.'

you're tiresome, and not very worthwhile.


if you don't want to live in a neighborhood with 'certain ethnic' merchants with 'certain ethnic' behaviors as you see them, perhaps tottenville is more your speed?


sorry, just sick of this.


There are many merchants in other neighborhood to form BID and hire sanitation workers to keep their area clean.

and if more residents are actually shopping in that area, it could build good relationship between merchants and community.

but in our case, the merchants are specifically selling products for shoppers from outside Jackson Heights.

They rejected to keep their store front clean despite the community's request.

Therefore,  it gives us an impression that those merchants just comes to our neighborhood and make money and leave the mess.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2012, 06:02:08 PM »
Thanks for saying what I was dancing around, dssjh.

Let's go for some chai and burfi sometime  ;)

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2012, 06:59:03 PM »
for some reason, you seem to think jackson heights has no south asian residents.
or, perhaps, that no white, black, latin, korean, eskimo or samoan people shop at these establishments.
sorry, just sick of this.

The problem is, this is the narrative that those merchants are spreading. Not koku. The merchants.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-01-19/news/30645077_1_city-councilman-daniel-dromm-plaza-merchants
From the Daily News: "Customers come from tri-state [area]... to Jackson Heights to shop,” said rally organizer Rashid Mohammad. But “the traffic has been made so complicated and so many traffic tickets have been issued that people do not like to come [anymore].” The clear implication is that his customers come from outside the neighborhood, exclusively by car.


From the WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203824904577213450708223064.html
"On one side are the shop owners who say the road closure has chased away the bulk of their business because buses no longer stop there and out-of-town customers have been flummoxed by a cumbersome new traffic pattern that leaves drivers heading for the highway."

Maybe these merchants should stop spreading the narrative that Jackson Heights doesn't have any shoppers living in it.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2012, 07:40:31 PM »
There's actually video on a NY1 piece of shop owners closing their stores when local residents went to 37th Road to support them and learn more about their businesses. If the owners of those shops were interested in local business why would they shut out local shoppers like that  ? 

It seems that the major thrust for the business owners is drawing traffic from the tri-state area to JH. They don't seem to realize the impact this has on streets that were never intended to handle that capacity, in fact at times they don't seem to realize that there's a neighborhood around them. They appear to be worried about their own bottom lines without concern for others around them.

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2012, 01:21:39 AM »
dssjh,

I may have a different perception of  what "racism"  is since I spent most of my life in Asian countries where societies are not culturally mixed as much as here,

I don't see which part of my post is racist.

Accusing people for making public space filthy is racist?
Complaining about traffic congestion caused by business is racist?

In local news show, there are segments where the viewers post their complaining toward some store or specific area in the community and the TV stations don't seem to think that is racist, either..

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Re: Eagle Theatre to become Supermarket (Daily News)
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2012, 12:45:56 PM »
it's a pervasive tone, koku.

not one post in particular, but an overall worldview you've espoused here going back months -- coy references, subtle digs, all of which play up the 'us versus them' thing.

and thanks for doing exactly what i said you'd do.