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Offline toddg

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2011, 07:21:19 PM »
Haha I see I got on your nerves.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2011, 07:58:19 PM »
@bpp75 - Great news that this is your last post on the subject.  Not sure you're bringing much to the conversation here other than the introducing zaney smiley faces.  And no, you don't have to love Espresso 77 but there is no question that this a community-owned and operated business frequented by authentic Jackson Heights residents.  Not sure you can debate that.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2011, 07:59:14 PM »
who is trolling who? she/he asked, i answered.

i will remove myself.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2011, 09:12:17 PM »
No one group owns Jackson Heights, or any neighborhood in NYC. Neighborhoods change. And when they do, some people like it, and some people don't. Jackson Heights started out as a country club community for upper middle class people from Manhattan. Now it's mostly immigrant. Tomorrow it will be something else. To argue about which incarnation is the real one is silly and a waste of time.

My guess is that JH will continue to gentrify. As it does, it will become marginally less affordable. It will also gain more stores and restaurants that cater to people who frequent Espresso 77.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 10:02:24 PM »
My guess is that JH will continue to gentrify. As it does, it will become marginally less affordable. It will also gain more stores and restaurants that cater to people who frequent Espresso 77.

i think we already have plenty of those, normel. we have restaurants that people travel from all five boroughs -- and beyond -- to patronize. and as someone who patronizes E77 on an almost daily basis, i find the restaurant scene in JH to be superlative.

other than the lack of an in and out burger, of course ...  ;)

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 10:47:27 PM »
i think we already have plenty of those, normel. we have restaurants that people travel from all five boroughs -- and beyond -- to patronize. and as someone who patronizes E77 on an almost daily basis, i find the restaurant scene in JH to be superlative.

other than the lack of an in and out burger, of course ...  ;)

This is probably the only subject I disagree with you on, D!

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 11:04:43 PM »
you mean you don't like in n out burger, foxy? [insert wide-eyed emoticon here]

i know what you mean...maybe i am just contrarian....but we can agree to disagree on one tiny aspect....


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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 02:35:20 PM »
There's an article in today's New York Times Real Estate section about Jackson Heights touching on this topic.

A Migrants’ Enclave Attracts a New Breed
By JOHN FREEMAN GILL
Published: February 4, 2011

A WESTERN Queens neighborhood planned by an innovative developer beginning a century ago, Jackson Heights is a vibrant oxymoron: an enclave where much of the world is represented. Long a magnet for immigrants, the area today is dazzlingly multifarious: more than 30 languages are spoken, including Bengali, Korean, Spanish and Urdu. Nearly two-thirds of residents were born abroad, according to census surveys from 2005 to 2009.

But over the last five or six years, brokers say, new arrivals from far-flung lands have increasingly been joined by young professionals migrating much shorter distances: north from Brooklyn, or east from Manhattan and the Queens neighborhood of Astoria.

The ranks of these new buyers are thick with architects, academics, lawyers and artists. “These are people who are not Wall Street types, and who tend to be creative professionals,” said Daniel Karatzas, an associate broker with the Beaudoin Realty Group and author of “Jackson Heights: A Garden in the City,” a history published in 1990 with support from a local civic group. “Fifteen years ago, this was not on their radar screen.”

Projit Mallick, a lawyer in his 30s who grew up in Kolkata (previously transliterated as Calcutta) and Los Angeles, is one Astoria transplant. Drawn by the abundant prewar housing stock, Mr. Mallick in 2004 paid $295,000 for a three-bedroom co-op on 82nd Street with his new husband, Andy Theodosiou, a naturalized Greek-American raised in Astoria. Their 1,500-square-foot apartment is a distinctive space created by a previous owner, who conjoined a pair of one-bedrooms, turning the superfluous second dining room into a third bedroom.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2011, 03:10:35 PM »
Anecdotally, I agree with the broker's observation in the article about new buyers in JH other than recent immigrants (as my family and I fit in to that demographic, as do many other people we know that have moved here in the last few years).

I find it interesting that every article about JH real estate cites E77 (and recently Table Wine) as indicative of some big demographic shift in the neighborhood.  I mean, we're talking about two storefronts out of hundreds!  There has been considerable turnover in the last three years that has not resulted in more stores catering to the "creative professional" demographic...judging by new stores, there has been an incredible influx (or pent-up need) for people using chain retail banks!

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2011, 03:49:04 PM »
I understand that banks are a necessary but just how many do we need here in JH?  A cafe serving up some juicy burgers would be much appreciated!!!!!!!!!! ;D I'm just sayin'
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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2011, 06:07:41 PM »
I remember reading that article. Was this written about your house? Im jealous. I LOVE that block. I use to live over there and would walk my dog down that block. Its probably my favorite block in JH!!! :)

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 10:14:15 PM »
I understand that banks are a necessary but just how many do we need here in JH?  A cafe serving up some juicy burgers would be much appreciated!!!!!!!!!! ;D I'm just sayin'

The burgers at Mark Twain Diner aren't bad at all. We just ordered from them tonight, so I know exactly what I'm talking about. And, well, it's not burgers, but the meat at the Legends BBQ is always great.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2011, 10:31:40 AM »
The burgers at Mark Twain Diner aren't bad at all.
If you ever get a chance, check out Bare Burger in Astoria.

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Re: Will Jackson Heights undergo the same transformation?
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 05:19:31 PM »
We don't go to the Mark Twain diner anymore cuz the last time the waitstaff look like they haven't bathed in this century and the silverware was crusty.  Pretty offputting! lol