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Offline toddg

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #105 on: October 03, 2011, 10:56:21 PM »
Update from the NYCDOT Jackson Heights Portal

Implementation Continues, Monitoring Begins This Week

Posted on October 3, 2011
Initial monitoring of the changes in Jackson Heights will begin this week.

Based on comments, we will start with 73rd Street/Broadway, 77th Street and 35th Avenue, 75th Street, and the new crosswalks on Roosevelt Avenue.  A comprehensive technical data collection and monitoring program will be undertaken in the next few months.

Painting on the 37th Road and 73rd Street Plazas is planned for this week, as well.  Thank you for your patience as we continue with implementation and begin monitoring.

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2011, 01:52:20 AM »
 :'( Once upon a time 73rd Street was a bad, bad street!  Buses had no where to go so they blew their horns and spewed their fumes.  Smaller vehicles figured they could do the same and did.  Once upon a time 73rd Street was a smelly, noisy street.  Traffic backed up causing tie ups on 35th Avenue, 37th Avenue and 37th Rd.  Tempers flared, people honked and yelled all sorts of nasty things, and when it was just too noisy to be heard they expressed their anger and frustration in simple finger gestures. Oh what a terrible place to be.  :'(
Then one wonderful September morn everything changed.  :D  Buses were rerouted cutting down on fumes and honking, cars could move freely and so had little need to honk or throw finger gestures out the window.  The smog lifted and people actually saw the sky!  Oh what a beautiful morning!
Of course, not everybody is as happy as I am.  Some would like to see the buses come back to 73rd Street.  :( Of course it wouldn't be just the buses that returned.  The buses would bring the horn honking, fume spewing, finger flashing, traffic snarling, dirty talking retinue with them.  Ugh!  :o
If you're happy with the 73rd Street improvements, clap your hands.  If you're really happy with the new, better, quieter 73rd Street drop a note to the lady who spearheaded the study that moved the traffic and say thanks, and let's keep the buses off the block! Others are writing with opposing views, let's make sure our voice is heard.  :smiley6600:
Maura McCarthy
Queens Borough Commissioner
Department of Transportation
55 Water Street 9th Flr.
NYC, NY 10041
If you're not a letter writer just give this post a nod and we will let her know we support the new and better 73rd Street.  :smitten:

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2011, 01:11:11 PM »
Amen, Liam!

There are two new posts up at the Jackson Heights Portal since I last checked.

In sum: NYCDOT has given 77th Street more green time, and better coordinated signals elsewhere to improve traffic flow.  Also, improvements to delivery zones for commercial vehicles will be made in November; and planning for the next phase of the pedestrian plaza will begin in the spring.

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2011, 01:57:47 PM »
That's good to hear about 77th St.  We need a longer light on the north side of 75th St., too.  Only about 4-5 cars can go through per green which is ridiculous given the amount of traffic down 75th St. now.  Also, re-routing the buses down the street where Trade Fair parks its delivery trucks is a BAD idea.  Those trucks are notorious for double-parking.  A car can usually make it around but not a bus.  This blocks the traffic all the way up the block.  I've called the 115th Precinct a couple of times about this but there's nothing they can do.
I also contacted the DOT, I'm waiting for a response.
What led them to change the light on 77th St.?

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2011, 01:42:51 PM »
For changes to lights, Danny Dromm told me to call  Queens Borough Commissioner Maura McCarthy - 212-839-2510.

The light on 77th Street was lengthened, which helped, but it is still not satisfactory. There is still a LOT of beeping, but I encourage you to call Commissioner McCarthy to get the light on 75th Street lengthened as well.



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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2011, 10:25:24 PM »
Seems to me 75th street needs to have turning lanes, part of why only a couple cars can go through is that its a single line and everyone has to turn left or right.  We'd lose a couple parking spaces but it seems necessary.... in my pedestrian, limited expertise in city planning, point of view

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2011, 12:53:37 AM »
I'm delighted to hear the joy from 73rd Street from these changes.

But I hope this is not viewed as a zero sum change, i.e. - shift the problem to 75th Street and call it a victory. That's not what was promised. That's not why I supported the changes. And I hope our neighbors on 73rd Street, and the entire neighborhood, will join us in seeing that all residents realize some benefit from the traffic changes.

I look forward to DOT's review. I know they'd be delighted to call the project a success and move their resources to other pressing problems. But I think it behooves us all to stick together and demand that the changes moderate and spread the toxic aspects of vehicular traffic so that we can all say that the Traffic Study was a success. Much fine tuning remains. I'm glad to hear that some has begun on 77th Street.

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2011, 07:06:03 AM »
I agree, Tom. Clearly, 73rd Street was suffering, and I'm glad they found some relief, but the fact is that this didn't solve the issue for the neighborhood; just shifted it so two other streets are also suffering. The double-parking on 75th sounds like a serious issue with the buses. DOT needs to come up with a better solution overall.

I also think the presence of PS 69 near these heavily trafficked streets is a little alarming, considering frustrated drivers will do dumb things to make it through lights.

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2011, 08:45:31 AM »
I live on 76th Street and I am happy with most of the changes.  Our street was constantly backed up and the sound of horns honking filled the air.  With the addition of another southbound street, and with the new turning lane which allows traffic to flow even when someone is making a left turn, the quality of life has improved.

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2011, 07:23:59 PM »
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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2011, 07:24:31 PM »
I'm delighted to hear the joy from 73rd Street from these changes.

But I hope this is not viewed as a zero sum change, i.e. - shift the problem to 75th Street and call it a victory. That's not what was promised. That's not why I supported the changes. And I hope our neighbors on 73rd Street, and the entire neighborhood, will join us in seeing that all residents realize some benefit from the traffic changes.

I look forward to DOT's review. I know they'd be delighted to call the project a success and move their resources to other pressing problems. But I think it behooves us all to stick together and demand that the changes moderate and spread the toxic aspects of vehicular traffic so that we can all say that the Traffic Study was a success. Much fine tuning remains. I'm glad to hear that some has begun on 77th Street.

Best,

Tom Lowenhaupt

73rd street is quite happy with the change, but don't for a minute that we are now a quiet country lane. 73rs street definitely gained from the study but we still have a lot to deal with. We still have an inordinate amount of both vehicular and pedestrian traffic.  We have close to 6 places selling meat and thus a daily cattle run--calves, lambs and goats thrown unwrapped from the floor of trucks into shopping carts and hauled down our street.  Most places complain about chewing gum on the street, we have to deal with pieces of meat and blood both of which attract rats and distract dogs. 

I have heard from folks on 75th street that the buses that now use their street are noisy and smelly and are a quality of life issue.  These same people have told me that the buses should return to 73rd street.  What's with that?  Is this simply an instance of NIMBY (Not in my backyard) a knee jerk reaction which has plagued planners throughout the city. Or is this a divisive statement that folks on 75th are better or at least deserve better than folks on 73rd?  I really hope that is not the reasoning.

I hope the conversation on neighborhood traffic continues, and all share their views.  To find meaningful solutions to our traffic problems ALL of us are going to have to experience changes in what we were used to to.  We have to do that because what we were used to just ain't working!

By the way, the petition signing flyers being taped to walls, light poles and other public spaces are illegal and add nothing to the beauty of the community.  Local merchants are very gracious in allowing flyers to be posted in their windows, and JH residents are quite used to being stopped in the street or outside a market by people seeking support or opposition to community issues.


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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2011, 09:28:04 PM »

I have heard from folks on 75th street that the buses that now use their street are noisy and smelly and are a quality of life issue.  These same people have told me that the buses should return to 73rd street.  What's with that?  Is this simply an instance of NIMBY (Not in my backyard) a knee jerk reaction which has plagued planners throughout the city. Or is this a divisive statement that folks on 75th are better or at least deserve better than folks on 73rd?  I really hope that is not the reasoning.




but liam, wasn't your earlier post, the one about how wonderful life is on 73rd now that buses have shifted to another land far far away, just as much of a NIMBY post? and by saying the buses need to stay in the backyards of those folks, you're just as guilty?

for the record, i live on the first floor of the warwick, with a bus stop directly in front of my living room window, so i get it {cough} beliebve me!

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2011, 10:39:47 PM »
Let's all face it. If you live outside of the historic district's boundries then we really don't count. We only matter as long as we provide a buffer zone for the historic district. That message was sent out long ago. The entire neighborhood should have been included but that doesn't serve some people's interests.
I also channel Gladys Gilbert!

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2011, 09:01:45 AM »
The study area was from 69th Street to 82nd Street from 35th Avenue to Broadway and included a chunk of Elmhurst. The Historic District only partially overlapped with the study area.   

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Re: Jackson Heights Neighborhood Transportation Study
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2011, 09:10:27 AM »
I think the petition that's going around 75th Street is ill advised. The idea of petitioning to simply change everything back to the way it was is ridiculous. Couldn't affected residents on 75th Street form a committee or something to talk with the Department Of Transportation about changes / tweaks that would make things better for them while remembering that they are part of a larger neighborhood that is also affected by traffic issues ?

Circulating a petition that jumps straight to a demand to reverse the decisions that were made after years of study and community input doesn't leave much room for rational conversation that could yield better results.