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Offline Shelby2

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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #120 on: February 08, 2010, 11:54:17 AM »
:'( I am deeply saddened by the closing of M & V Bagel Shoppe and Cavalier Restaurant. This is from Lost New York City. Could JH be getting a Barnes & Noble? Does anyone know?
http://lostnewyorkcity.blogspot.com/2010/02/irish-wake-at-cavalier-restaurant.html

There is a rumor floating around about Barnes and Noble.   In the past there was a rumor that B and N was going to go into the large space on 82nd St. but that turned into the ABC Discount Store.

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« Reply #121 on: February 08, 2010, 12:24:34 PM »
Interesting rumor. Positioning a B&N above 82nd St would do a lot for that section of JH, I think.

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« Reply #122 on: February 08, 2010, 03:33:06 PM »
A B&N certainly would do a lot of this area of JH's.  Imagine what it would do for the area if it was a Trader Joe's?  I'm hoping it won't be Condos which was also mentioned. 

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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #123 on: February 08, 2010, 03:37:54 PM »
Where are these rumors coming from?  Do people just make them up or do they actually originate with someone saying something like, "I know someone in Corporate Affairs at B&N and she told me..."

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« Reply #124 on: February 08, 2010, 05:02:19 PM »
Like it or not this neighborhood is changing and the landlords are aware of this therefore the stores will change along with the population.  I am sure this very same thing happened in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg and Astoria.  I think it's called re-gentrification.  
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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #125 on: February 08, 2010, 05:51:34 PM »
What is that block zoned for and is it in the Historic District?

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« Reply #126 on: February 08, 2010, 06:02:31 PM »
I am not sure of the specific zoning. The current building is taypayers and has been that way for over 60 years. There is an apartment building on the other half of 37th avenue and on the next block. Accross the street are taxpayers.

Yes, it is in the historic district.

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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #127 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:11 PM »
Well, stopped in at Flagship again.  That place has been part of my life since my post-colle partment mates and I hung there, through the current great ownership.  They were going to close today, but he thinks he may open a few more days.  Just as sad though.  :(

But every cloud has a silver lining ... almost everyday since Luc could walk, he wanted a gumball from the machine.  The owner even gave him quarters sometimes, they are big fans of his.  So when I was chatting with him on Saturday, and he said hew as selling everything, he wasn't kidding and we struck a deal. 

The look on my son's face when he saw his new 5 foot gumball machine, priceless.  (And worth the funny looks I got pushing it on a dolly down 79th Street)
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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2010, 08:20:07 PM »
That is sooo cool!

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« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2010, 10:00:46 PM »

the problem with that kind of change -- at least insofar as it applies to willamsburg and astoria -- is that the new stores never last. they die on the vine after three, six or 12 months. very very few stay in business, because, frankly, while people may need a jar of tasmanian sea salt or a vintage feather boa (or, less sarcastically, a luxury item like a custom leather briefcase) every once in a great while, they aren't things that one needs to stop in for every tuesday and thursday. i lived in astoria for a few years, before the rents tripled, and the old-school places were fading, but had been there for three, four, five decades. once they were displaced, the turnover became a yearly thing in a lot of stores along broadway and 30th. i am not saying that change is, in and of itself, bad. but it's not, in and of itself, good.


Like it or not this neighborhood is changing and the landlords are aware of this therefore the stores will change along with the population.  I am sure this very same thing happened in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg and Astoria.  I think it's called re-gentrification.  

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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2010, 10:42:33 PM »
Shelby,

Yes, the store is clean and the clothes are neatly folded, but this is the exact same appearance as when the store was up on Roosevelt and 84/85 (by the T-Mobile place) 

They set up shop there for 4 months or so and for the duration of their tenancy, never improved the appearance of their store beyond that.

It's barely a step up from being a street vendor who sells bootleg merch on the street.  Same nomadic retailers, same folding tables, just hopping storefronts as opposed to street corners.

Do you really feel that sort of operation provides a value to the community, or would you rather see someone establish a business that wants to set roots in the neighborhood and improve the quality of life or just offer clean, well-folded merchandise on nomadic folding tables?

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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2010, 11:11:08 PM »

Do you really feel that sort of operation provides a value to the community, or would you rather see someone establish a business that wants to set roots in the neighborhood and improve the quality of life or just offer clean, well-folded merchandise on nomadic folding tables?


I prefer to see a storefront that's occupied, as opposed to a storefront that is papered-over (such as the former Gothic Cabinetcraft) or a storefront that is covered with acid-etched graffiti (former shoe store on the same block as the Cavalier).

Click on jheightsgirl's photo essay http://picasaweb.google.com/jheightsgirl/JHeightsStorefrontsFeb2010# for a reminder about how blighted our streets can look when we have storefronts sitting empty for too long.


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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2010, 11:32:01 PM »
That is sooo cool!

Thanks.

Here's our piece of Flagship, in it's new home!

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« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2010, 11:34:26 PM »
Thanks.

Here's our piece of Flagship, in it's new home!

Favorite line:  "What do you mean only two a day?"

Rob, that's adorable!  The thing is bigger than him!!   :D 
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Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2010, 11:40:45 PM »
LOL, trust me, I know!  I lugged it on a dolly up the 79th Street hill from 37th to many odd looks.  But well worth it ...

Incidentally he has a plan to bring it down to the next Dunolly flea market to supplement his lemonade stand from last year by selling gumball ... two more trips down and up?? ... oy!
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