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Offline toddg

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2009, 10:01:04 AM »
There are two places you can look for runway maintenance and closure updates:

http://www.adcnynj.org/AirportUpdates.html
http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/airports/html/lg_construction.html

The Aviation Development Council, which runs the first website, also notifies Community Board 3 about upcoming runway closures that may create noise conditions in the neighborhood.  CB3 used to pass on these announcements to community members via a notification list (http://www.cb3qn.nyc.gov/?p=33087), but that doesn't seem to be active anymore.

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2009, 10:50:05 AM »
Yes, these links tell you about special circumstances that affect take-offs and landings.  But what about just an average day?  It would be so much more bearable if LaGuardia let us know when and for how long a certain landing pattern will last.  Today, the landings started at about 6:00am.  Will they last all day?  Until noon? Until late at night?  There's seems to be no way of finding out.  It's sort of like being stuck in a traffic jam.  You can't do anything about it, but you just feel better when you have an idea of how long it's going to last. 

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2009, 09:50:53 AM »
I do not  think you will be able to get this kind of notification from LGA as they change their arrival/departures patters based on many factors.  To me, the question is why planes are lending over residential area? It creates  air pollution, noise and  more importantly safety hazard.  Should be address by district office.

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2009, 12:42:21 PM »
Wondering about all the airplane noise today, Nov. 8, 2009?

"Runway 13-31 will be closed on Sunday, Nov 8th, from 12:01am until 2pm.

These temporary closures may impact flight patterns over some of the communities surrounding LGA."

from http://www.adcnynj.org/AirportUpdates.html

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2009, 01:45:02 PM »
it's probably a good day to go airplane watching

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2009, 08:24:18 PM »
For those of us who go to church, it is a good excuse for not paying a lot of attention to the sermon. :angel:

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2009, 09:57:57 PM »
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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2009, 08:20:04 AM »
I do not  think you will be able to get this kind of notification from LGA as they change their arrival/departures patters based on many factors.  To me, the question is why planes are lending over residential area? It creates  air pollution, noise and  more importantly safety hazard.  Should be address by district office.

You know since this area just became residential maybe they should close the airport.  I am sure the City  doesn't t need  airports.  I also hear that they are planning on closing all the power plants in Astoria (which is near residential areas) that will cut down on pollution as well! We also get a lot of pollution from Grand Central Parkway maybe we should consider closing that as well?


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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2009, 08:34:55 AM »
heck, since we have perfectly good subways and buses, just ban vehicular traffic altogether. i wouldn't miss the car stereos and the red light running bozos.  :police:

but seriously, the plane noise issue is so so so so much less of a problem now as it was in the late '90s. i recall one or two summers where runway construction brought takeoffs overhead from six am saturday until late night sunday every single weekend.

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2009, 09:41:32 AM »
The airport noise is better and I don't like the Sunday morning wake-up from the planes as well.

Attach is a link to the history of the airport http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaGuardia_Airport#History.  I think it was built long before Steve Gray came to town. I'd really like an explanation from him why he thinks the City should change for him?

It is clear that it has been a part of the area for a long time and is something that we have to live with.  It would be great if they could do construction starting at 9:00 on the weekend.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2009, 09:47:51 AM by v70cat »

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2009, 01:01:18 PM »
Dear v70cat,

I usually won't engage in arguments online, but since I was just called out for a comment I made back in March, I felt I needed to reply. Thanks for providing the link to the history of LaGuardia Airport, as the wikipedia article will help me illustrate the point I was trying to make 9 months ago.

You are quite correct, LaGaurdia Airport was built well before I was born in 1966. But as the section of the wikipedia article subtitled "Later Development" points out, LGA is too small, too busy, and its runways are too short by modern standards for a commercial airport located in the heart of a metropolitan area. If you continue reading the next section, entitled "Accidents and Incidents" you will note that in my lifetime, there have been FOUR major accidents, ALL of which occurred on TAKEOFFS from the airport, the most recent of which was US Airways Flight 1549 back in January.

My posting back in March was not a complaint so much about airplane noise, but about the wisdom of using runway 4/22 for takeoffs over the densely-populated neighborhoods of Woodside, Jackson Heights and Elmhurst, as opposed to the other direction, if possible. And how dare you have the nerve to criticize my comment AND then ask for construction to be delayed until 9AM on weekends! (Which emoticon is most appropriate for "hypocrisy"?)  :coolsmiley:

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2009, 03:11:16 PM »
Steve, you raise a good point about safety, however I believe take the direction of take off is influenced by wind direction. It was not meant as a attack, I was just using your words from your post, however it was directed at you instead of the "big bad officials".

I find this site and others related to JH are littered by entitled  people that recently moved here and since they are here, they want to things to change!   Now some change is good and the community can benefit from the help of its new members however I find that it is very easy for people to complain and be entitled and do nothing in the end.   The Airport is vital to the City  and for or for bad it happens to be in our back yard.

I don't like the early Sunday morning airplane noise and was suggesting that might be a reasonable/constructive  compromise for all.



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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2009, 05:00:18 PM »
I apologize if the tone of my earlier reply was a bit nasty, but I said nothing in my original post about wanting LGA closed. In fact, in another thread I reminisced about spending many a Saturday during my childhood watching the takeoffs and landings from the observation deck at LaGuardia. And I love the fact that now I can jump on the Q33 and be at the airport in about 12 minutes. For the record, I was raised in Woodside and attended both P.S. 11 and St. Sebastian's, so I am quite used to the sound of commercial airliners passing overhead every few minutes. And while I may have only moved to Jackson Heights two years years ago, my cooperative apartment was built a dozen years BEFORE the airfield that would eventually become LaGuardia Airport, and therefore -- technically, my home WAS here first! ;D

Now to get serious for a moment... there's nothing I can do about how you feel regarding the "entitled" newcomers to Jackson Heights, but trust me, as someone who has lived in other parts of this city, JH has one heckuva LONG way to go before it becomes "gentrified." We'd all be well advised to be a little more respectful to one another and not start accusing people of being elitists or racists because they express a certain opinion about street vendors or trash collection, the local homeless, or even about the types of business establishments they currently patronize or would like to see in the future. Given the current economic outlook for our city and state, we'd all be better off working with each other than at cross purposes. End of sermon.  :angel:

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2009, 08:06:19 PM »
 It is all good, we are Americans and free to express our point of view. :)

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Re: Airplane Noise
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2010, 11:07:00 AM »
Anyone else notice this morning that there was a flight path change bringing departing planes right over the historic district?


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