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New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« on: August 02, 2017, 02:51:29 PM »
Whether you love charter schools or despise the privatization of education, one thing many of us can agree on is that the U.S. education system is failing many of our kids. And opening charter schools is just a small way of taking action against a failing system.

We have Renaissance Charter School on 81st Street which has been a great success, but this school only holds 550-odd students. What about the other children in our neighborhood?

Before summer vacation, my niece, who is a 5th grader, told me that her teacher couldn't explain fractions to her even though the class was being "taught" them... because why put effort into teaching?  >:( I ended up tutoring my 5th grade niece to make up for her teacher's lack of knowledge.

I know not all public schools are run like this. I know a lot of successful public schools where administrators really care for their students and encourage them in every way. But, we still have ELA and Math scores that only just make the grade. We can do better!

I want to know if anyone in JH is interested in forming a group to discuss the idea of starting a charter school. Either located in JH or surrounding areas (District 30 or 24). My dream is to start a STEM charter school for girls but I am open to all ideas to get our neighborhood kids into better high schools and onto great colleges.

Thoughts? Complaints? Want to form a group and get coffee so we can discuss?

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 02:57:41 PM »
Check out Forte Prep Academy Charter school at http://www.forteprep.org/. It is the newest in the area.


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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PM »
Whether you love charter schools or despise the privatization of education, one thing many of us can agree on is that the U.S. education system is failing many of our kids. And opening charter schools is just a small way of taking action against a failing system.


This kind of inane sophistry from fallacies 101 makes me wish for better education for both products of charter and public schools......

Paraphrasing your first paragraph

"There is a problem. Many people say A is one cause of the problem. Many people say A is part of a solution to the problem.

What we can all agree up on is something needs to be done. Everyone thus must agree that doing more A is an action against the problem"

This is a variant of  Begging the Question, where you presuppose the answer while claiming to be "openminded" to the question.  You've already decided that charter schools solve the problem and thus dismiss the claims of those who "despise the privatization of education".

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 05:51:58 PM »
Brilliant idea!

A STEM School for Girls would not only empower girls to succeed in Math, Technology and Science, but lead them on the pathway to pursuing sought-after careers in engineering, technology and science where they are under-represented.
I am very keen to put in the work to make a school like this in our community, happen.
Please message me and we can get this much needed project off the ground. I will support any efforts to bring the local community together with a vision for high quality education.

Having an impact on a child's life by offering opportunities to succeed in life rests on all of us.
It takes a village, so please think about joining me. Message me if interested.







I know not all public schools are run like this. I know a lot of successful public schools where administrators really care for their students and encourage them in every way. But, we still have ELA and Math scores that only just make the grade. We can do better!

I want to know if anyone in JH is interested in forming a group to discuss the idea of starting a charter school. Either located in JH or surrounding areas (District 30 or 24). My dream is to start a STEM charter school for girls but I am open to all ideas to get our neighborhood kids into better high schools and onto great colleges.

Thoughts? Complaints? Want to form a group and get coffee so we can discuss?

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 08:02:43 PM »
I love this post.  Thanks, lalochezia.  You seem to have a firm grasp of logic and grammar!  Seem to me those that don't shouldn't be opening schools.

Whether you love charter schools or despise the privatization of education, one thing many of us can agree on is that the U.S. education system is failing many of our kids. And opening charter schools is just a small way of taking action against a failing system.


This kind of inane sophistry from fallacies 101 makes me wish for better education for both products of charter and public schools......

Paraphrasing your first paragraph

"There is a problem. Many people say A is one cause of the problem. Many people say A is part of a solution to the problem.

What we can all agree up on is something needs to be done. Everyone thus must agree that doing more A is an action against the problem"

This is a variant of  Begging the Question, where you presuppose the answer while claiming to be "openminded" to the question.  You've already decided that charter schools solve the problem and thus dismiss the claims of those who "despise the privatization of education".

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 11:43:43 PM »
I'll stand up and say that I have two kids who have received an excellent education at P.S. 69.  It's a big, busy school, and it's not for everyone.  But they do an excellent job on behalf of their wide and diverse student body.  They are extremely resourceful in attracting grants and special programs, and offer cultural and arts programming that is unparalleled anywhere in the area as far as I have been able to tell.  They are large enough to be able to tailor classrooms to different students' paces of learning. And 7-8 years ago, when the city was beginning its tumultuous transition to a new curriculum, the school had the foresight to get out ahead of the changes, and the teachers were much better prepared to implement them than at most schools across the city.

I also know a lot of parents who were quite pleased with P.S. 222, especially its bilingual education program.

In most cases, the kids and parents I know who opted instead to attend the various charter schools in the district were also happy with their choices.

There are always cases where a school or a teacher doesn't come through for a student, but at the elementary school level, I haven't heard of this happening systematically in our area.  I'd be interested in hearing if others have a different view.

Bottom line -- every kid is unique, and a charter school may well be the right choice of a particular child.  I like the idea of a STEM school for girls, and am sure there would be a lot of interest in it.  But we are fortunate that some of our zoned schools in Jackson Heights are excellent, and there is no reason to assume that sending your child to one of them is any kind of compromise.

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2017, 08:37:34 PM »
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I love this post.  Thanks, lalochezia.  You seem to have a firm grasp of logic and grammar!  Seem to me those that don't shouldn't be opening schools.
Hilarious. From a woman who calls dishes in this neighborhood "ethnic food". ETHNIC FOOD? How white washed do you want this hood to be, woman? This neighborhood -- and the people who make it what it is -- obviously mean nothing to you if the only comment you can make on a serious educational matter is "lol, good one lalochezia". Our students are failing. Stop being a troll's sidekick.


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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2017, 01:11:43 PM »
There is a young woman in Elmhurst who is trying to open a charter school. Pricilla Walton. CB4 approved it. Here is an article from April.
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170412/elmhurst/elm-community-charter-school-district-24-proposal

I'm a public school supporter, but there is only one charter in D24, which has 55,000 overcrowded schools, wth 143 annexed three times. I've met Pricilla, and if you're interested, she would love your support.

Personally, I don't support them, but I know the exasperation of advocating for a kid in public school.

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Re: New charter school in Jackson Heights (or surrounds)?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2017, 01:17:07 PM »
Sorry, here is the link to the article-
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170412/elmhurst/elm-community-charter-school-district-24-proposal

It would be great to ship fewer kids out of the neighborhood.
And for charter supporters- the biggest eye opener I learned was that a child's zoned public school must still pay for the child in charter, and for the bussing. It destroys a schools budget.

I share the link because, as mentioned I  would have loved any glint of an option for my child and believe in parents who take initiative. Consider your local public school. With a few hours a month of your service, they get better for everyone. I could have used some help, but nevertheless made great strides at 89. Changes in test prep, school calendar and webpage, addition of about 6 events a year, securing funding for a dance room, winning two grants for sustainability/gardening- getting the kids in the JH Halloween Parade, even holding off the addition of 60 new students, and a new field trip policy. I did most of it from the mentoring I received form JH People for Public Schools. So, if you're anti-charter, look at the difference you can make as a public school supporter. Another thread on what parents have achieved for public school kids would be quite interesting.