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Re: NYT - JH House on 86th Street listed for $1.45 million ?!?
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2014, 04:56:23 AM »
Fair observations and criticisms. My personal experiences have been good, and (it's hearsay but I do speak to a lot of people about this) most of the people I know who send their kids to the local schools are as happy (or unhappy) with them as the people I know who chose private or charter or G&T schools. That's why I was surprised about the comments here. To me our schools seem no worse than other schools in other areas.

It's not the diversity that's a plus, many schools in other areas are probably more diverse when you look at the demographics. It's nice to have what we have but that's really a minor thing. To me, it mostly comes down to the administration and the teachers. Some of the teachers we've had for our kids have been fantastic. Some not so much, but - again - that's also what I've heard from other schools.

It's clear that people have different standards for judging schools. One person's $1.2M house is another person's yurt  ;D


69 is incredibly huge and regimented, as you know, so it's tough for kids who may function better in a quieter atmosphere or one with a little more flexibility and personal attention. Some of the other schools have extremely large ESL populations, and there are some English-only parents who believe they get underserved when so much of the school's resources are devoted to ESL (because ESL is expensive and high-resource.) There are other parents who love the diversity of such schools, but I'm giving you the objections I've heard from people who don't like them.

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Re: NYT - JH House on 86th Street listed for $1.45 million ?!?
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2014, 03:43:05 PM »
DISCLAIMER
I didn't mean to say that people might not be happy at the jackson heights schools. Many people who could be happy anywhere after all. I meant that according to sites such as greatschools.org the forest hills schools are rated much higher than the jackson heights ones. Ratings are based on objective criteria rather than satisfaction judgements.

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Re: NYT - JH House on 86th Street listed for $1.45 million ?!?
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2014, 04:54:30 PM »
Greatschools.org is funded by some groups that are big supporters of charter schools
(http://www.greatschools.org/about/supporters.page) so their criteria might not be as objective as they initially appear.

DISCLAIMER
I didn't mean to say that people might not be happy at the jackson heights schools. Many people who could be happy anywhere after all. I meant that according to sites such as greatschools.org the forest hills schools are rated much higher than the jackson heights ones. Ratings are based on objective criteria rather than satisfaction judgements.

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Re: NYT - JH House on 86th Street listed for $1.45 million ?!?
« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2014, 03:31:28 AM »
We are off topic but it's not only greatschools, all school sites (schooldiggers, etc) rank forest hill schools much higher.

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Re: NYT - JH House on 86th Street listed for $1.45 million ?!?
« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2014, 10:56:23 AM »
 Lot's of Jackson Heights kids don't attend the public schools here. There are other options locally with parochial,
independent and charter. Forest Hills and Bayside schools are currently SUPER crowded whatever their previous
reputations have been. This makes for a cottage industry of extra's all over the borough like test prep and college
counseling which really should be included in the school day. Our local public schools work well for a number of
people but they are not really that diverse as in certain cultures favor one school over another and sway the
stats there so they do not look at all like the neighborhood diversity when you see schools let out for the day.
  I would look at our schools visually for starters and see if you picture your kids in with the groups coming or
going from each school. Or will you be one of the many parents commuting with their kids very early/late
elsewhere or putting them on a school bus to some farther away Gifted/Talented scheme? We do have choices
here in JH though and by HS students are usually on the track to specialized schools or some program matching
their interest. The small HS's here (Garden School and Renaissance) and the Parochial schools have had some
outstanding college placements that I know of so if you think long term, remember to include them.