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New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« on: June 16, 2008, 11:03:41 PM »
A fence has gone up around the single-story building at the SE corner of 73rd Street and Roosevelt.   A demolition permit was issued for the property on June 18th.  This has the potential to be quite a large new building given the zoning and prominent location.  Hopefully the architecture will be decent.

This should be an interesting one to watch. 

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 12:57:02 PM »
This building had a fascinating mix of tenants.  It included:

  • Om Tibet Restaurant at 40-05 73rd St.
  • Go Hyang Jip Restaurant (Korean) at 40-03 73rd St.
  • Charming Beauty Salon (Korean) at 73-02 Roosevelt Ave.
  • Tibet Mobile at 73-04 Roosevelt Ave.
  • Akota Grocery (Bangladeshi) at 73-06 Roosevelt Ave.
  • Chilli Chicken (Indian Chinese) at 73-08 Roosevelt Ave.
  • Afghan Shish Kebab House (formerly viva Juarez Mexican Restaurant) at 73-10 Roosevelt Ave.
  • Casanova Night Club at 73-12 Roosevelt Avenue

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 09:19:43 PM »
Here's some information on what's going up here.

The building will be 70' tall, with retail and medical facilities on the ground floor, a 70-car garage below, and five floors of apartments (34 units) above.  It is being designed by Raymond Chan Architects of Flushing (no renderings on their site yet).

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 11:37:34 PM »
Thats really interesting. I am not sure what to think of it. I feel like i brought the gentrification when i came here.
but its good to have money coming in to the community rather than just circulating it among food places and salons.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 02:06:28 PM »
I'm sorry, but I am not very hopeful that the building about to rise in this spot is going to enhance our community... a Flushing architect? I've avoided Main Street for the past decade, and this sounds to me as if it's the expansion of the eyesore known as Broadway from Elmhurst into Jackson Heights. Who gave the okay for this project? Was this reviewed and approved by the community board? And who in their right mind would want to live in an apartment overlooking the 74th Street #7 station??

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 06:16:13 PM »
Imagine how noisy that area would be at night.  But they'll find people to live there.  "IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME."
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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 10:22:12 PM »
I was interested to know how "does" it work when a building like this goes up?  Does anyone know what the process is? It needed community board approval ---didn't it?  I do agree that the building about to rise from the ashes is not going to add anything to our community. 34 apts., a medical facility and retail---with 70 parking spots seems like it will only bring a further cacophony of conjestion, noise and pollution. We seem to have people on the community board who sadly do not  represent our interest.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 08:11:25 AM »
Okay, I'll jump in with a point of view that's going to be unpopular.

I haven't seen a rendering of the project, so I'm not talking about the project's design.  But as far as it's basic scale is concerned, I support the project (minus the parking garage).  I'll even go as far as saying I'd like to see much more development on this scale along the Broadway and Roosevelt corridors.  In my view, these areas represent some of the best locations to channel the growth that is inevitably coming to our area, because of the superior transit service and walkability they provide.

NYC is expected to add 900,000 new residents by 2030, and Queens will see a significant share of that.  We face a basic choice.  We could continue the "overgrown suburb" development path we've been seeing, where this growth occurs in places like East Elmhurst and Corona, where the need for auto ownership is high, and most trips are consequently auto trips.  This would put ever-greater pressure on our quality of life as more and more shoppers attempt to reach our business districts by car.

Alternatively, we could grow around our transit nodes, so that a far greater share of residents will get to their destinations by transit and by walking.  More residents at our transit hub would help make the area safer and more pleasant, gradually making alternatives to the "nightclub and bar" scene (which primarily caters to non-residents) more viable.

As for the approvals process, I expect that this project fit within what was allowed by the area's zoning, so no lengthy approvals were needed.  I don't know the process that would be required if a zoning variance were requested, but if a Community Board hearing were needed, this would fall under the jurisdiction of Elmhurst's CB4.


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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 07:30:38 PM »
nah, that's not so unpopular sounding.  Except for dissing the garage. LOL
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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 07:45:22 PM »
I don't think your point is unpopular.  I'm also for development, but development which is carefully planned. That development centers around a transportation hub doesn't necessarily mean that people will use the transportation to get to it.  74th street is perfect example.  It is  perpendicular to the transit hub but most people use their cars to get to it.  There is not much of a "bar- night club" scene, yet is remain filthy most of the time. It would be interesting to see 74th street-- and 82nd street for that matter  as a pedestrian only street---with no cars.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 08:54:00 PM »
Okay, I'll jump in with a point of view that's going to be unpopular.

I haven't seen a rendering of the project, so I'm not talking about the project's design.  But as far as it's basic scale is concerned, I support the project (minus the parking garage).  I'll even go as far as saying I'd like to see much more development on this scale along the Broadway and Roosevelt corridors.  In my view, these areas represent some of the best locations to channel the growth that is inevitably coming to our area, because of the superior transit service and walkability they provide.

NYC is expected to add 900,000 new residents by 2030, and Queens will see a significant share of that.  We face a basic choice.  We could continue the "overgrown suburb" development path we've been seeing, where this growth occurs in places like East Elmhurst and Corona, where the need for auto ownership is high, and most trips are consequently auto trips.  This would put ever-greater pressure on our quality of life as more and more shoppers attempt to reach our business districts by car.

Alternatively, we could grow around our transit nodes, so that a far greater share of residents will get to their destinations by transit and by walking.  More residents at our transit hub would help make the area safer and more pleasant, gradually making alternatives to the "nightclub and bar" scene (which primarily caters to non-residents) more viable.

As for the approvals process, I expect that this project fit within what was allowed by the area's zoning, so no lengthy approvals were needed.  I don't know the process that would be required if a zoning variance were requested, but if a Community Board hearing were needed, this would fall under the jurisdiction of Elmhurst's CB4.




There is so little public parking in the area I am going to disagree only with "supporting minus the parking garage".  I actually think all commercial and residential projects should require parking.  I'm not anti mass transit I just having all transportation options available  including driving and parking.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 10:30:56 PM »
I personally would be all for a new building in Jackson Heights.  Granted the location would not be the nicest Jackson Heights has to offer and the sound of the 7 train is not very attractive, I would still consider living in a new building with all the bells and whistles that they come with (parking, gyms, roof deck, etc).  I do love living here with everything Jackson Heights has to offer, but having a new building while still having all the great places in the neighborhood to walk to sounds too good to be true  ;)

Oh, did I also mention it would probably be more affordable than the new buildings LIC or Forest Hills??

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »
Okay, I feel the need to further elaborate my concerns. I am not opposed to new development by any means, but as a longtime resident of Queens, I know that our neighborhood will only benefit from new construction that is well thought-out. Having grown up in Woodside and now happily living in the heart of  the Jackson Height historic district, I have seen far too many single-family homes with beautiful front and back yards disappear, only to be replaced by hideous multi-family apartment dwellings that lacked a single shrub for landscaping. My earlier reference to the blight of Main Street has much to do with an "Asian" aesthetic (or lack thereof) in which the developer builds on top of every available inch of ground, without regard for pedestrian traffic, public spaces, greenery, or neighborhood character.

Just a few things to consider: The medical offices alone will bring more congestion to this already very busy intersection... Are these offices in any way going to be affiliated with nearby Elmhurst Hospital Center? Does the developer already have tenants committed to leasing this space? Where will the entrance/exits to the parking garage be located, and is this public parking or for tenants only?

I only bring questions like these up because I want responsible development in our neighborhood.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 09:40:44 PM »
City zoning regulations are designed to encourage medical offices.  For example, medical offices are one of the few types of businesses allowed in residential areas.  In the case of new development, the inclusion of a "community facility" such as a medical office allows a larger building than would otherwise be permitted.  I'm not sure the reason for this, but it has been a longstanding practice. 

The vast majority of trips to these types of small neighborhood medical offices arrive on foot, rather than by car, so there's not much risk they'll generate a lot of traffic.

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Re: New Building at 73-02 Roosevelt?
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2008, 12:42:21 PM »
I'm a little curious about the parking facility. If I'm not mistaken isn't some portion of the Roosevelt Ave. train station under this site ?  Or am I misunderstanding the foot print of the building. Perhaps this is whay Music Box etc. were not also purchased and raised as those buildings are directly above the subway, which I imagine makes development very challenging.

Either way, as huge a fan of public transit as I am I think the parking garage might be a good idea. Firstly it would afford an opportunity for the residents and even visitors to that building to NOT park on the street. Potentially making it easier for those taht do own cars in the area to find street parking. 
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