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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2008, 05:47:21 PM »
Just think about this for a second: If FedEx and UPS didn't get ticketed in NYC, they could probably reduce OUR costs to use THEIR services by the 20% of their profit margins that are now dedicated to paying those fines. That would roll back their prices to us to around the mid-1980s when the now $12.95 overnight letter costs only $10.50.
Now you are making my point for me.

I'm also pointing out a fatal flaw in your argument.  FedEx/UPS have not stopped delivering to anyone, despite the ticketing.  This defies the reasoning in your anecdote about how one retailer went out of business simply and solely because a delivery agent stopped shipping them Coke due to parking tickets.

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2008, 06:04:34 PM »
Will-

Your suggestion makes complete sense. However, that is probably why it will never happen. Logic and reason do not a city government make.

The city makes much more revenue by NOT having delivery zones. This way they don't lose the income that the delivery zone takes up (2-4 parking meters) AND they get to ticket all the people who are double parked in order to make deliveries.

Bureaucracy at its finest. Unfortunately. For all the logical-minded of us.
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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2008, 06:17:35 PM »
If the majority of Jackson Heights residents don't have a problem with the way our traffic laws are enforced, then I don't see what the problem is.  In fact, I feel better that our traffic laws are enforced as much as the article insinuates.  People who violate parking rules deserve to be ticketed!  If I get a ticket I don't whine and complain, I pay it!  Unless, of course, I was wrongly ticketed.  Unless you walk or drive down our streets every day having to swerve in and out of double parked trucks and cars, avoid cars making an illegal u-turns, wait ten minutes for traffic to move one block because of double parked vehicles, or even listen to the honking horns coming from behind said double parked vehicles from your apartment, then I don't think you can offer an informed opinion on this issue.  Like other posters have said, traffic rules are here to keep us safe, and while some officers might be a bit overzealous, almost all the tickets written are legitimate.  If you don't want a ticket, park appropriately.  And if you have a problem with delivery trucks getting tickets, write to the mayor about how it affects the merchants in YOUR neighborhood.

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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2008, 07:17:05 PM »
I would encourage anyone who is disappointed with this Daily News article to write a letter to the editor.

The author's email is rschapiro@nydailynews.com

Letters to the Editor can be sent to: voicers@edit.nydailynews.com

I would like to share the "Letter to the Editor" that I sent today:

Dear Rich Schaprio,
 
Your Daily News article today entitled "Jackson Heights Angry as city's Parking Ticket Capital" is utterly irresponsible. I am asking for an immediate correction of the heavily biased and inaccurate tone of the article. Please forward this email to your editor.

I am a Jackson Heights resident. I started a group (Western Jackson Heights Alliance) with fellow neighbors last year to combat traffic congestion in our neighborhod. One of the fundamental problems contributing to traffic in our area is illegal parking. We have thousands of cars and trucks who double park, block the box, park in bus lanes, delivery zones, and crosswalks.

Our group, like many others, has asked the local police precinct to increase enforcement of parking violations to help reduce traffic congestion. These tickets are a measure of the level of parking abuse and dysfunction, not some attempt by the local precinct to create busy work. It is a direct response to a request from the community.

I am disappointed that this article is titled "Jackson Heights angry as city's parking ticket capital" while not quoting a single Jackson Heights resident. A more accurate headline would be "Jackson Heights Angry about Traffic Congestion, Relieved about Increased Enforcement". 
 
The tone of the article suggests that residents of Jackson Heights are "angry" about these parking violation tickets. However, the reality is that many Jackson Heights residents are encouraged by the increased enforcement of parking violations in our area. Jackson Heights has the lowest car ownership ratio in Queens. The vast majority of Jackson Heights residents do not use or own a car. Unfortunately, our area still suffers from severe traffic congestion because of overwhelming demand, poor street engineering and lack of parking management.
 
In an attempt to address this issue with city officials, our group worked with transportation and traffic experts to identify remedies to the problem of traffic congestion. The three 'E"s have been identified as essential to fixing it: Enforcement, Education, and Engineering. We are happy that the NYPD has increased enforcement for the second straight year in our area. We have recently received $800,000 in city and federal funding to study traffic engineering in Jackson Heights. The study is underway and results should be forthcoming. A key part of reducing traffic congestion is educating the public about parking violations and how they contribute to traffic congestion. Your article sadly undermines the tremendous effort to educate the public about how their behavior impacts the community.
 
Please reconsider the title and tone of this article. I expect a full and fast response about how this article was constructed and how it can be repaired. Thank you in advance for the consideration.
 
Will Sweeney

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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2008, 07:47:41 PM »
[This post has been removed by the Moderators for violating board policy on name-calling.]
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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2008, 08:14:44 PM »
WIll - good job. You are right on and as a JH resident and business person I totally agree.  :rockon:

NYCMacUser - try to relax and put on a positive face. After, we in JH want a happy, peaceful, safe and polite neighborhood. By the way, do you live in JH? Your bio says you are from Astoria.

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2008, 08:20:55 PM »
I also welcome city's strong law enforcement against traffic violation.  Actually, I would like the city to be further aggressive
about honking violation.  Unfortunately, many people who come Jackson Heights for shopping have a terrible manner.  They
don't respect this is actually residential area but people honk soooo aggressively.   To me this is much more annoying than airplane noise. 

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2008, 08:47:12 PM »
Will Sweeney is a respected member of the Jackson Heights community.  I feel that the work he does through the organization he started, the Western Jackson Heights Alliance, is essential for our community.  The WJHA is an organization that is always working toward improving quality of life issues here.  I feel very confident that Will’s work is geared toward looking out for our best interests, and I’m happy that someone is speaking up for us….especially since I have aging parents that find it more and more difficult to walk the commercial strip safely.  I fully support all the work he does on the community’s behalf.  I also know many Jackson Heights residents who share this sentiment.
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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2008, 08:51:22 PM »
WIll - good job. You are right on and as a JH resident and business person I totally agree.
Yeah, anytime you want to be taken seriously, remember to spell someone's name wrong.

NYCMacUser - try to relax and put on a positive face. After, we in JH want a happy, peaceful, safe and polite neighborhood. By the way, do you live in JH? Your bio says you are from Astoria.
Is that another way for telling someone to smile? You want a positiver face? Take a look at that letter! It is as positive as a heart attack. You seem to think that I don't want a happy, peaceful, safe and polite neighborhood. But I'm not going to move out of New York in the near future. So, what I am willing to settle for is making sure the lowest person on the totem pole, the local working man and woman, is not paying the price for the some organizers who make the loudest noises and think that they can speak for everyone when they are in fact representing a very small minority of like-minded individuals who no-one would support if they were on a ballot. Contact the Mayor's Office and find out the real reason Jackson Heights has been targeted for this phase of the ticketing blitz. It has to do with the potential income that will be excreted from local residents. The 115 is already so overburdened and is having very little to do with it.

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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2008, 09:40:33 PM »
There is definitely some tension in this thread but I will add my two cents anyway.

I have gotten my share of parking tickets over the years and most were justified.  I was either negligent or over slept in most cases.  I think enforcement is necessary.  I do see police riding on 37Th avenue ordering double parkers to move.  If the double parker is in the vehicle and they move they are not ticketed.  I don't think you should pick and choose and give tickets to corporate trucks but not to local business owners.  I also see the parking enforcement agents giving tickets 1 minute after 8:00 AM if the sign says no parking from 8:00 - 9:30.  I am also OK with that. If someone says they should have a ten minute grace period the next person will want a 20 minute grace period.

I do think the ticket prices are high.  I recently got  a ticket by parking on Northern Boulevard and 85Th street for parking at a meter on the eastbound side from 4-7 which is a no standing time and it was $115.00.  I paid the ticket because I was negligent and didn't read the sign.   I thought it was a good space and fed the meter because every spot was taken on that side of the block.  Loading from trucks during off hours may be an option but it may be noisy for homeowners close to businesses.

Some problems don't have easy solutions - just my two cents.

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Re: Parking Violations in Jackson Heights
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2008, 10:00:13 PM »
eddiestjohn - your two cents was definitely worth much more.
thanks

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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2008, 11:25:35 PM »
Thank you, Will.

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2008, 11:38:37 PM »
There is definitely some tension in this thread but I will add my two cents anyway.

Some problems don't have easy solutions - just my two cents.

My two cents:  NYCMac = tension. 

Mac, stop trying "to stir the pot".  You just love to fight, don't you.  For those who don't know that about you, you'll make that fact loud and clear yourself.  This is a different board than you're used to -- you'll be arguing with yourself.  Why do you feel a conversation has to have conflict?  And I'm not saying everyone has to agree with everyone else but you're always "reacting" and looking for a reaction from others.  It's a bit drama-rama.  And I'm not going to fight with you here.  Probably no one is.
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 01:39:46 AM »
My two cents:  NYCMac = tension. 

Mac, stop trying "to stir the pot".  You just love to fight, don't you.  For those who don't know that about you, you'll make that fact loud and clear yourself.  This is a different board than you're used to -- you'll be arguing with yourself.  Why do you feel a conversation has to have conflict?  And I'm not saying everyone has to agree with everyone else but you're always "reacting" and looking for a reaction from others.  It's a bit drama-rama.  And I'm not going to fight with you here.  Probably no one is.
DAMN! It's such a good way to have fun.

Okeedokeepokee, you win. Since I can never get a ticket, I really shouldn't give a crap.

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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2008, 02:26:44 AM »
Will is doing amazing work bringing people together to find solutions to problems in the neighborhood.  I understand and share his anger at an article like this that fosters idiocy in the name of populism.

But the statistics really do puzzle me.  I wish there were more information explaining why so many tickets are issued here.  Because it doesn't match the anecdotal evidence I've heard from elsewhere.   For example, some friends of mine in Brooklyn complain bitterly about the aggressive and sometimes arbitrary ticketing in their neighborhood, such as tickets for parking 12 feet from a hydrant (technically illegal if less than 15 feet but rarely ticketed citywide).  Like eddiestjohns, I have received my share of tickets, but never arbitrarily or unjustly.  And in a large area of the 115th Precinct, single family homes dominate and street parking is very easily available.  So I just don't buy the story that there's more aggressive ticketing here than in other parts of the city.

Or perhaps a large number of tickets are written at LGA, which is inside our precinct?  Hard to tell, but I doubt enforcement policy on its own explains why the total here is high.