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New School in Jackson Heights
« on: December 17, 2009, 02:36:19 AM »
Blessed Sacrament School on 94th Street and 35th Avenue closed this year due to lack of enrollment.  It is not often that new school spaces open in this area. Today I spoke to the CEC office for District 30 (which includes Jackson Heights to Astoria) and was told that the Department of Education will take over the space and will open teh doors as of September of 2010.  The plans for the new school have not been set, but it will be an elementary school probably from Pre Kindergarten to 5th grade.  I was told there are currently 5 proposals for the school and that although the official comment period is over no decision has been made yet.  I asked that they send me the 5 proposals, but I have not received anything yet. 
 
I know the Principal of PS149 has made a proposal to open a Dual Language Academy by moving its current dual language classes across the street to the old Blessed Sacrament Buildings and then use the free space in PS 140 to add Pre K classes in the original school building.  This would make the school an Annex of PS 149 and open up more dual language classes in the neighborhood.  There are more details below.
 
New spaces do not open up often, so if you have comments or suggestions, please act fast.   You can e-mail newschoolsteam@schools.nyc.gov or send your comments to Dr. Philip Composto District 30 Superintendent 28-11 Queens Plaza North, 3rd Floor, LIC, NY 11101.
 
 
Proposed Dual Language Academy as an Annex of PS149
 
With this proposal you have the following benefits:
(i)                  open much needed Pre-K seats in neighborhood
(ii)                add coveted dual language class room seats to a  proven program
(iii)               easy transition and less administrative expenses as an annex
 
There is a great need for additional Pre K seats in the community.  Each year local parents cross their fingers as they enter the lottery to enter public school pre-K programs and this will fill a great need.  It is a great benefit to have siblings in the same school, which is why it is imperative to open Pre-K seats in PS 149.  PS 149 doesn't have a Pre-K program as there is currently no space in the existing building, despite 2 additions.  By moving the dual language program to the new seats across the street, spots would open so that families can have their kids in the same school from Pre-K to fifth grade.
 
As you know PS 149 is an “A” school with a celebrated dual language program which has to turns away kids every year.  The dual language program at PS149 integrates third grade students from dual language programs from both PS222 and PS228 which are both early elementary school with students from Pre K to 2nd Grade.  Due to a lack of seats, each year many children are pushed out of the dual language program and are forced into monolingual classes after 4 years of work on the second language.  Each year parents complain, but they are told there is simply no space for additional seats.  With these additional 400 seats, we can finally address this chronic problem.   
 
As the school is to open its doors in just 9 months, it seems crazy to attempt to develop a new school theme, hire a new administration, group new teachers and recruit new students.  As an annex, the current dual language classes from now starting in Pre K and proceeding to 5th grade can have their own place in the dual language annex across the street from PS149.  This is a tried and proven program with an existing student base, curriculum, teaching staff and organization, it would just be enlarged and moved across the street.  The new dual language academy would have the space for additional third, forth and fifth grade classes to seat the kids currently pushed into monolingual classes.  As the program is already known and loved in the community, there is no need to recruit new students or educate parents.  Adding Pre-K classes to the existing PS149 building is also an easy transition as the school is known by all in the community.
 
But just adding seats in the community is not enough.  The dual language academy should also meet community needs.  As the school is situated in an immigrate community, the school doors should not shut at 3 PM.  Adult English as a Second language classes are critically needed in the community.  Ideally there would be funding to have English Language classes for the parents at night and on weekend.  The dual language academy should have a library for both students and their parents. This would give parents access to computerized English as a Second Language programs for individual study and resources for parents who want to improve their English.
 
In addition currently PS 149 runs a successful Beacon after school program that always has to turn away kids.  The added building should also be a reason to expand the Beacon after school program to both buildings.
 
 
 
Info about Blessed Sacrament Space:
There are 2 building each with 3 floors and has approximately 400 seats.  It has an auditorium and gym.  There are no elevators in the buildings, but there are 2 outdoor play areas. 
 
 

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights - maybe finally a high school?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 08:22:45 AM »
We have a lot of need throughout the school system here but it is acute for High School. This would be an ideal place for a small
HS that the neighborhood deserves. So many parents worry as their children leave our middle schools -and we have a number of
those- to go so much farther away for High School. There is a tendency for parental energy to be leveraged toward the very
young but this is also a high need area as teens can be very vulnerable!

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 06:57:19 PM »
Yes we need a HS, but the Dept. of Education has already decided the space will be for Pre K to 5th.  Anyone have idea on how to best use the space as an elementary school?

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights Should Really Be A H.S.
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 08:11:10 PM »
But if this is already decided- by whom and when did it go to public opinion?- can it at least alleviate some
of the ridiculous redistricting near the JH/Woodside area? I know this is far away from 92nd but elementary
students in the lower 70's of Jackson Heights go to PS152 on the Northern side of the street making them cross
the BQE under a pigeon sh*t infested tunnel. This area is woefully underserved in all school decisions!
There have been a number of newer, nicer elementary schools closer to Corona while this other area sits and
wallows. Again, community decisions anyone? I still think Jackson Heights needs a High School now- before
one more elementary- however nice the proposal is. In our society, most children do not end their education
at middle school. Can we not have a local decent High School? A teen center? Anything for teens?
 Our JH teens are being hung out to dry...

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 08:32:39 PM »
I know Renaissance Charter School was interested in the space for a second high school (9th grade to 12th grade).  I do not know what happened with that, I just know that it will be opened in September as an elementary program.  Space is a big problem in our area.

I am angry that they have not asked for any public comment, so please speak to your friends and neighbors and have them comment.


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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 08:48:32 PM »
I will notify friends to get active here. Speaking of the Renaissance School, is there a way it could be re-districted(sp?)
or whatever the term is so only Jackson Heights children are eligible for the lottery system they use? In all my years
here, I only know of one parent who successfully got one child into the school. Maybe this would help with the over
crowding in other areas.  A High School expansion there would be great but I don't believe that many of the students
at R. School live in the immediate neighborhood? Could this also be limited to our already neighborhood in JH of
high density school age children?

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 09:10:56 PM »
I believe as of this year students in District 30 now have a preference in the lottery for the Ren. Charter School.  I am not sure, but I think most of the current kindergarten class are now at least District 30 kids (that is from Astoria to Corona).

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Funny thing. Yesterday while going past dismissal at The Renaissance School we greeted a child from the overcrowded District 2
who now goes to school here in Jackson Heights. What do you think the chances are of a child from our district getting into
one of their schools? Snowball in hell? While the very youngest need a lot of attention, we have to look at the way our
entire system aids students from Jackson Heights. From where I stand now, I think there is a HUGE deficiency in the High School
area that I rarely hear discussed except for trying to get safety transfers out of the zoned school. In the past 10 years,
the elementary schools for the area near Corona has made real strides. Time to distribute to all areas of the neighborhood
and really help the schools here all the way through the grades. I know any new school is progress but this time I feel the
need to speak out for a different plan.
FYI- have no personal or family need in this area.

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2009, 06:57:04 PM »
      One of the things I believe any pre-K to 5 planned school should include is space for a District 75 program.  For those who do not know, District 75 is the district citywide that adminsters most of the special needs students across variable disabilities (multiply handicapped, autistic, emotionally disabled, etc.).  All new buildings constructed by the BOE are required to give 10% of all space to District 75.

       I teach in a District 75 school, based way out in Floral Park on the edge of Queens, yet about 45% of the students in our school with multiple disabilities hail from District 30.  District 30 has limited space in the existing buildings, so students with health conditions, physical disabilities, Down syndrome, etc, are shuttled (oftenw ith pick up time slike 6:45) across Queens to our site.  Students with autism fare better though (there are more D75 school options in District 30, via PS 255 being colated at a few sites).

      Whatever plan comes out, the acquisition of these building should be treated like NEW CONSTRUCTION, thereby allowing the creation of a District 75 site that is with a fairer distance to those students who reside in this district, targetted to the multiply handicapped populations.

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2009, 01:13:09 PM »
I am a public high school English teacher (teaching in the Bronx) who recently moved to Jackson Heights & was also struck by the prevalence of public middle & elementary schools in the area & no public high schools (other than the charter school).  Which high schools do those middle school students (there must be a large number of them) then go to?

I'd love to be able to transfer to a school closer & was wondering if there are other public high school teachers living in Jackson Heights & teach "near by."  Which high schools?

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2009, 04:21:30 PM »
I do know that the 'local' high schools are Bryant and Newtown, but I know local kids also attend Forest Hills High School.

And of course, the specialized high schools, which have grown in numbers since I was in high school (back then, it was just Science, Stuv, and Brooklyn Tech).

I think the HS issue is moot though regarding the new space ... given the size and proximity to the elementary school, it would probably go that route.

Now the old St Johns Hospital ... that would be an excellent site for a high school, location wise.
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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 12:41:06 AM »
There's also the new "small" schools like

Finance and Enterprise
High School of Applied Communications
Academy of American Studies

and larger schools (in addition to Bryant and Newtown) like
Info Tech
Long Island City
Queens Voc

That I know kids from the neighborhood go to. New York City students can travel quite far to go to school.

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2009, 04:07:56 AM »
Is Aviation still a high school, or was it redesignated?
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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2009, 01:06:57 AM »
It's still a high school

(I'm a high school teacher if you haven't guessed)

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Re: New School in Jackson Heights
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2009, 08:32:23 AM »
Even if the space available is likely to be designated for elementary, am glad to be discussing a substantial local
high school. While the small HS's are great, they often don't have the numbers for competitive teams for sports,
debate or political affiliations which can often lead kids to their life's interest. I see Eleanor Roosevelt HS now
on the upper east side as an excellent example of a medium sized public school performing really well in a
neighborhood where kids had been used to traveling far to HS. Also, Cardoza in Bayside and Forest Hills HS while
both overcrowded are generally loved by their neighborhoods for high standards and keeping it in the hood.
Can we seriously float this idea for Jackson Heights? I think St. John's Hospital is still a little far...