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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2019, 10:09:50 PM »
Here is what i would do if i could be Dromm for a day. Easy fixes, very little  money.  These should be standard of living for a tax paying citizen.  Anything else?

1) end open prostitution.  its so weird and creepy that this even happens in 2019.  Roosevelt will always be a dump until they clean this up
2) close the fentanyl lab behind kitchen 79.  its been talked on here before.  its so painfully obvious.  perhaps cops are involved. 
3) make the food trucks move.  allow the streets and sidewalks to be cleaned for once.  the repeating same taco truck along Roosevelt, the permanent grocery store outside 74th st station.  the never moving food trucks that block diversity plaza.
4) free up our sidewalks.  no more cheap cloths spilling onto 82nd st.  or the dollar stores along 37th.  or the weekly junk sale at ps69.  we have a ton of people in the neighborhood., its getting harder and harder to walk around with all the impediments. 
5) have the endless metermaid army enforce actual parking laws.  end double parking along 37th ave and bring back no parking on Roosevelt during business hours. 
6) bring back the cops.  We have over 100k tax payers, and about zero cop presence. Where are they?  where does our $ go?

What about jobs for lazy boomers who sit at home collecting social security and contributing nothing.  Just sounding off on the internet all day. I agree you should organize. Go buy some brooms and sweep up the sidewalks, pick up trash or photograph and report bad driving, and parking. Maybe an armed militia can stand guard over the catholic church?

Here's a little insight into the continuing issue with the brothel behind kitchen 79. Could it be our "great" police force is protecting this criminal organization?

https://nypost.com/2018/03/26/whistleblower-dishes-on-nypd-turning-blind-eye-to-drugs-hookers/

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 11:02:52 PM »
Here is what i would do if i could be Dromm for a day. Easy fixes, very little  money.  These should be standard of living for a tax paying citizen.  Anything else?

1) end open prostitution.  its so weird and creepy that this even happens in 2019.  Roosevelt will always be a dump until they clean this up
2) close the fentanyl lab behind kitchen 79.  its been talked on here before.  its so painfully obvious.  perhaps cops are involved. 
3) make the food trucks move.  allow the streets and sidewalks to be cleaned for once.  the repeating same taco truck along Roosevelt, the permanent grocery store outside 74th st station.  the never moving food trucks that block diversity plaza.
4) free up our sidewalks.  no more cheap cloths spilling onto 82nd st.  or the dollar stores along 37th.  or the weekly junk sale at ps69.  we have a ton of people in the neighborhood., its getting harder and harder to walk around with all the impediments. 
5) have the endless metermaid army enforce actual parking laws.  end double parking along 37th ave and bring back no parking on Roosevelt during business hours. 
6) bring back the cops.  We have over 100k tax payers, and about zero cop presence. Where are they?  where does our $ go?

1) You should ask your State Senator Jessica Ramos about this. She seems to know a bit about this issue
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-decriminalize-sex-work-in-ny-20190221-story.html

2) This seems to be merely hearsay. Does anyone want to investigate, or call the police, or do something instead of just spreading rumors?

3) Where am I going to get my food? My fruit? You've never eaten food from a truck? You've never bought produce from the guys on 75th and Roosevelt or 82nd or 37th? Should we boot the guy selling books on 37th and 81st? How about the juice trucks? Do they make the cut?

4) I believe the flea market outside PS69 is a fundraiser. You want to deny money to the PTA? The people selling on 37th and 82nd are obviously doing some business or they wouldn't be there. That's how the free market works. I guess you're not a customer, so they should go too.

In general, you should probably think about moving to a different neighborhood...or city, for that matter. I don't think you're cut out for New York.

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2019, 08:59:21 AM »
the only people who used the "Some People" meme on Easter were conservative commentators. they got aroused by the violence. they always do.

*cough* bigoted trash *cough*


So you agree our representative was outraged when muslims died but was silent when christians died?

Muslims died in Sri Lanka, too. at hotels and other locations. why are you celebrating their deaths? other than your usual frothing bigotry, of course.

I'm not "Celebrating" the death of any human being. I'm showing the rank hypocrisy of our local politician who speaks up forcefully for some and stays silent for others.

If you came away thinking anything else it's due to your closed mind. Deal with it.


So by staying silent on a large mass murder we can agree Dromm did a disservice to Muslims and “Easter worshipers” as well?

Froth is for Starbucks and I don't like their business model.

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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2019, 09:48:27 AM »
1) You should ask your State Senator Jessica Ramos about this. She seems to know a bit about this issue
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-decriminalize-sex-work-in-ny-20190221-story.html

2) This seems to be merely hearsay. Does anyone want to investigate, or call the police, or do something instead of just spreading rumors?

3) Where am I going to get my food? My fruit? You've never eaten food from a truck? You've never bought produce from the guys on 75th and Roosevelt or 82nd or 37th? Should we boot the guy selling books on 37th and 81st? How about the juice trucks? Do they make the cut?

4) I believe the flea market outside PS69 is a fundraiser. You want to deny money to the PTA? The people selling on 37th and 82nd are obviously doing some business or they wouldn't be there. That's how the free market works. I guess you're not a customer, so they should go too.

In general, you should probably think about moving to a different neighborhood...or city, for that matter. I don't think you're cut out for New York.

And here it comes... I don't think the first poster said anything that was out of line or unreasonable. They were asking for: less junk on the streets, the ability to actually clean the streets, suggestions to help overcrowding/pedestrian flow, a reduction in drug dealing and prostitution, an increased police presence, etc. And you want them to move out of NYC. Funny...considering that I agree with all of the suggestions, am not a "Boomer" as someone else pointed out, and am a native, life-long NYer.

As for your points:
1. Decriminalizing prostitution is most certainly NOT the answer and is going to make our problem worse. Jessica Ramos is a huge disappointment to our community in my opinion, but that is another forum.

2. Have you walked by the corner of 79th and Roosevelt at night? I have many times. There are clear lookout guys loitering on the street and they are pretty menacing looking. I believe I read that people call the cops on them, but they keep coming back. Either way, something is going on there and it is too close to home for my liking. But god forbid we put a patrol car there because "minority targeting..."

3. Have you shopped at the wonderful Lemon Farm, Growing Farm, Frutadona, Kims Brother? Great produce, great prices...NOT from the street. Have you walked by the 75th and Roosevelt fruit guy? Firstly, it's mobbed and people block the street, there's boxes all over, and people are gross and throw food scraps EVERYWHERE. Every day I get off the subway, I am stepping over orange and banana peels. As for food, to each his own, but I am personally averse to street food after I got sick. Never again.

4. The school fundraiser is fine. I agree, it's nice for the community. I sort of wish it were a little less junk yard sale and a little more like Brooklyn Flea...but that's just me.

As for your final comment: NO, I will definitely not be moving to a different neighborhood or out of my city. But, YES, I will join in the fight for improving our quality of life in the community.



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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2019, 06:22:54 PM »
  This is the type of discussion that we really need here in JH. And lets hope that potential replacements for Dromm
- and I hope a number of people run for this office- have a real healthy debate for the voters.

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2019, 08:44:18 PM »
1) You should ask your State Senator Jessica Ramos about this. She seems to know a bit about this issue
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-decriminalize-sex-work-in-ny-20190221-story.html

2) This seems to be merely hearsay. Does anyone want to investigate, or call the police, or do something instead of just spreading rumors?

3) Where am I going to get my food? My fruit? You've never eaten food from a truck? You've never bought produce from the guys on 75th and Roosevelt or 82nd or 37th? Should we boot the guy selling books on 37th and 81st? How about the juice trucks? Do they make the cut?

4) I believe the flea market outside PS69 is a fundraiser. You want to deny money to the PTA? The people selling on 37th and 82nd are obviously doing some business or they wouldn't be there. That's how the free market works. I guess you're not a customer, so they should go too.

In general, you should probably think about moving to a different neighborhood...or city, for that matter. I don't think you're cut out for New York.

And here it comes... I don't think the first poster said anything that was out of line or unreasonable. They were asking for: less junk on the streets, the ability to actually clean the streets, suggestions to help overcrowding/pedestrian flow, a reduction in drug dealing and prostitution, an increased police presence, etc. And you want them to move out of NYC. Funny...considering that I agree with all of the suggestions, am not a "Boomer" as someone else pointed out, and am a native, life-long NYer.

As for your points:
1. Decriminalizing prostitution is most certainly NOT the answer and is going to make our problem worse. Jessica Ramos is a huge disappointment to our community in my opinion, but that is another forum.

2. Have you walked by the corner of 79th and Roosevelt at night? I have many times. There are clear lookout guys loitering on the street and they are pretty menacing looking. I believe I read that people call the cops on them, but they keep coming back. Either way, something is going on there and it is too close to home for my liking. But god forbid we put a patrol car there because "minority targeting..."

3. Have you shopped at the wonderful Lemon Farm, Growing Farm, Frutadona, Kims Brother? Great produce, great prices...NOT from the street. Have you walked by the 75th and Roosevelt fruit guy? Firstly, it's mobbed and people block the street, there's boxes all over, and people are gross and throw food scraps EVERYWHERE. Every day I get off the subway, I am stepping over orange and banana peels. As for food, to each his own, but I am personally averse to street food after I got sick. Never again.

4. The school fundraiser is fine. I agree, it's nice for the community. I sort of wish it were a little less junk yard sale and a little more like Brooklyn Flea...but that's just me.

As for your final comment: NO, I will definitely not be moving to a different neighborhood or out of my city. But, YES, I will join in the fight for improving our quality of life in the community.



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Uhh... let me guess you consider yourself part of the silent majority that's gonna take this country back? You are mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore??

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2019, 09:16:15 PM »
Oh look, it's clap back season.  ::)

Here's the deal: I'm not angry, I'm not trying to "take back the country," and I love the neighborhood.  I also happen to like clean streets, nice stores, and optimistically hope for an improved quality of life for all of us.

It's interesting that the old timers in the neighborhood do not seem to want anything to change. Literally, if a couple suggestions are made, people devolve into name calling and hysteria. My only consolation is that things WILL change as new and fresh perspectives continue to grow in the neighborhood.

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2019, 09:25:46 PM »
Gordan ... must be real fun at parties.  A real peach

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2019, 09:40:30 PM »
Oh look, it's clap back season.  ::)

Here's the deal: I'm not angry, I'm not trying to "take back the country," and I love the neighborhood.  I also happen to like clean streets, nice stores, and optimistically hope for an improved quality of life for all of us.

It's interesting that the old timers in the neighborhood do not seem to want anything to change. Literally, if a couple suggestions are made, people devolve into name calling and hysteria. My only consolation is that things WILL change as new and fresh perspectives continue to grow in the neighborhood.

I agree with you that things will change. That's the nature of New York. Plus we put up with negative stuff in our neighborhood (trash, sex soliciting) that would make most of the rest of New York think "Wow. Old New York. And not the great things about Old New York.   Like cheap rent."

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2019, 10:31:03 PM »
Gordan ... must be real fun at parties.  A real peach

what, specifically, did you find objectionable?

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Re: Dromm for a day....
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2019, 11:36:36 PM »
The discussion of sex work on Roosie is in many threads, but I chose to place this comment on the most recent. Perhaps these folks have something to do with the lack of action?
 
"Much love to @QueensBarrios for your words of support and all you do to build radical community in Queens! We need a Queens for all people! This work must uplift massage and sex working migrants and undocumented workers of all trades/industries! #CopsOutOfParlors #RightsNotRaids"

Here's another:
"Sincerest thanks to @jessicaramos and her staff for supporting migrant massage workers' and sex workers' rights! We're glad to have you in the struggle for #decrim! #CopsOutOfParlors #RightsNotRaids #MigrantPower"

NB. same folks that oppose Amazon and Target and Sunnyside Yards.

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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2019, 12:19:23 AM »
The discussion of sex work on Roosie is in many threads, but I chose to place this comment on the most recent. Perhaps these folks have something to do with the lack of action?
 
"Much love to @QueensBarrios for your words of support and all you do to build radical community in Queens! We need a Queens for all people! This work must uplift massage and sex working migrants and undocumented workers of all trades/industries! #CopsOutOfParlors #RightsNotRaids"

Here's another:
"Sincerest thanks to @jessicaramos and her staff for supporting migrant massage workers' and sex workers' rights! We're glad to have you in the struggle for #decrim! #CopsOutOfParlors #RightsNotRaids #MigrantPower"

NB. same folks that oppose Amazon and Target and Sunnyside Yards.

The irony of this is AMAZING.
Sex work/massage parlor jobs are encouraged.
Amazon etc jobs are banned.

It's an upside-down borough we live in...

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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2019, 08:24:37 AM »
Don't even get me started on Queens Barrios/United. They are a hateful group. Have you ever seen their posts on FB? They are unbelievable. They are fighting for all the most backwards things, I agree with you ABC, it's the ultimate irony.  I suspect many of us feel differently than they do, but we're not out there making noise, filing frivolous court cases, or hitting Jeff Bezos pinatas.  Until we mobilize to shout louder than they do, they'll continue to claim that they "represent" Queens.

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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2019, 10:06:32 AM »
Still amazed. And can't quite believe it.

So, I have to repeat it to myself.

The sex worker industry is being promoted. Thus jobs in the sex industry are being encouraged.

And any job in Amazon etc is being denigrated.

Thus aspirations for women (and men too) are for the sex industry. And that is what is being touted as good for the culture/future for Queens?

Looks like we will become that touristy RED LIGHT DISTRICT ( as in Amsterdam) after all! I was half-kidding in previous posts but it is coming true!

I understand now. These groups appear to hold the political power (via Jessica Ramos/AOC) in the borough.

There is a blindness over how perverse this logic is. Fear of change has twisted a sense of ethics. 
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2019, 10:17:43 AM »
The bill to decriminalize sex work makes it illegal to punish customers, not just sex workers   That's why it is opposed by some feminists, who rallied against it not long ago, as noted here: https://carolynmaloney.com/the-feminist-divide-over-decriminalizing-sex-work/   

It is difficult for me to envision how the bill Ramos is supporting will stop the sex trade in JH. If anything, it will make the street scene after midnight more sleazy.  It's been widely acknowledged that creating the Red Light district in Amsterdam, where prostitution is legal and regulated by the government, was a well-intentioned mistake and it is going to be abolished.