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Offline CaptainFlannel

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2017, 04:50:12 PM »
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generation z is showing less interest in breeding.

Generation Z are kids in high school right now and younger, so sure if you mean teenage pregnancy rates are at an all time low,  I suppose you're right and hope that continues.

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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2017, 10:26:17 PM »
1995 on to mid 2000s, but point taken.

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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2017, 07:24:06 AM »
I would never buy a walk up:
*Re-sale value
*Grocery shopping
*Forget about a serious injury, what if I even sprained my ankle
*When you're simply feeling under the weather, climbing steps isn't fun
*Family/friends w/ knee issues, it's extremely common
*Furniture delivery

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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2017, 09:54:04 AM »
Well this thread took an interesting turn! I'm glad it ultimately circled back to the factors people prioritize when looking for apartments. For us, having lots of natural light, space, and character in a great location at a reasonable price were the deciding factors, which is why we chose the Colonials. Fortunately, we are both young to be able to get our groceries (and daughter) up the five flights without much trouble, though I recognize that is a challenge for many. Thanks to everyone for chiming in.

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2017, 02:20:57 PM »
I was curious about elevators and so I read this online...

As a very rough guide, the cost of a full-scale elevator upgrade will run roughly $15,000 per floor, per elevator. Your agreement with the contractor should include a regular preventive maintenance program, which usually entails twice-per-month visits and servicing. (Maintenance programs are not included in the upgrade cost.)...

And it says that elevators must be upgraded every 25 years or so.

Could that be right?

Wow, not cheap. 

I suppose that's why maintenance for elevator buildings is always so much higher than walk-ups...

Anyway, I suppose in life you pay for what you get. And there's no way around it.







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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2017, 09:54:43 PM »
Re: maintenance in elevator buildings. I live in a Hawthorne Court house with an elevator. My apartment maintenance is $650 a month for a 2-bedroom/2-bath. It's not always more expensive!

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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2017, 10:09:59 AM »
Re: maintenance in elevator buildings. I live in a Hawthorne Court house with an elevator. My apartment maintenance is $650 a month for a 2-bedroom/2-bath. It's not always more expensive!

Then I suppose your assessments are pretty regular.  There is, after all, no way out for paying for what you get in life.

That's for whether it's apartments or lunches.

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« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2017, 01:01:14 PM »
Re: maintenance in elevator buildings. I live in a Hawthorne Court house with an elevator. My apartment maintenance is $650 a month for a 2-bedroom/2-bath. It's not always more expensive!

Then I suppose your assessments are pretty regular.  There is, after all, no way out for paying for what you get in life.

That's for whether it's apartments or lunches.

i also live in a 2bedroom with elevator and $600 maint... no assessments in 5 years since ive been here.

A financially well managed co-op should have a reserve fund for stuff like that.

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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2017, 01:59:08 PM »
Wait.

Is that for 12 times a year (per month)?

Or 13 times a year (per 4 weeks)?

Someone told me that's how buildings give the impression their maintenance is lower.

Were they kidding me?


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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2017, 06:41:11 PM »
Re: maintenance in elevator buildings. I live in a Hawthorne Court house with an elevator. My apartment maintenance is $650 a month for a 2-bedroom/2-bath. It's not always more expensive!

Then I suppose your assessments are pretty regular.  There is, after all, no way out for paying for what you get in life.

That's for whether it's apartments or lunches.

i also live in a 2bedroom with elevator and $600 maint... no assessments in 5 years since ive been here.

A financially well managed co-op should have a reserve fund for stuff like that.

The maintenance in the new Washington Plaza co-op is over $1,300 a month for a 2 bedroom/2 bath. We have one elevator per building. Maybe the cascading pool is filled with champagne.

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« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2017, 07:01:36 PM »
Wait.

Is that for 12 times a year (per month)?

Or 13 times a year (per 4 weeks)?

Someone told me that's how buildings give the impression their maintenance is lower.

Were they kidding me?

no co-op charges maintenance on anything other than a monthly basis.

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« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2017, 08:16:11 PM »
Abcdefghijk etc...you seem to really, really,really want to confirm that it's much cheaper to live in a walk-up, and that these low maintenance figures I and another person are citing must be misleading. No, in fact, there have been just a few assessments--two or three-in the six years we have been here--totaling (over six years) maybe $2000 tops, when something came up that needed some extra funding--and it was not anything related to the elevator, which is serviced and maintained via the maintenance fees. The $650 maintenance figure includes a portion that goes directly to the reserve fund every month. They key is that these buildings never had an underlying mortgage (they were coops from day 1) and we do not employ a management company or a professional staff. We have a super who gets a free apartment in exchange for cleaning duties mostly--and the management we do ourselves. It's a thrifty model that so far has worked out well for us. No big assessments, no big expenses, and the maintenance has gone up just once (by $50) in the six years we have lived here. We came from a building in Manhattan with hundreds of apartments and a full staff--so maintenance there was around $1300. We saved a lot by moving to JH and into one of the small garden coops. And we chose one that does have an elevator.

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« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2017, 11:21:35 PM »
Abcdefghijk etc...you seem to really, really,really want to confirm that it's much cheaper to live in a walk-up, and that these low maintenance figures I and another person are citing must be misleading. No, in fact, there have been just a few assessments--two or three-in the six years we have been here--totaling (over six years) maybe $2000 tops, when something came up that needed some extra funding--and it was not anything related to the elevator, which is serviced and maintained via the maintenance fees. The $650 maintenance figure includes a portion that goes directly to the reserve fund every month. They key is that these buildings never had an underlying mortgage (they were coops from day 1) and we do not employ a management company or a professional staff. We have a super who gets a free apartment in exchange for cleaning duties mostly--and the management we do ourselves. It's a thrifty model that so far has worked out well for us. No big assessments, no big expenses, and the maintenance has gone up just once (by $50) in the six years we have lived here. We came from a building in Manhattan with hundreds of apartments and a full staff--so maintenance there was around $1300. We saved a lot by moving to JH and into one of the small garden coops. And we chose one that does have an elevator.

Simply trying to clarify.  Real estate brokers tell a person all sorts of things.  Not always true.

Some frugal walk-ups in the neighborhood have a cheaper maintenance than $650....(like $550)...That is low floor elevator building apartments vs high floor walk-up apartments...so I suppose the extra from a high floor $550 walk-up apartment to make it up to low floor elevator apartment $650 does go towards the elevator.  The figures can be made to work, I see.  (I have looked around and compared).
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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2017, 06:00:00 AM »
When I was looking for an apartment, I was sorely tempted by some of the low maintenance fees I was seeing at the walk ups. But we decided that unless it was a first floor apartment, it wasn't a wise decision in the long run given a family history of serious arthritis issues (on both sides). And from a safety perspective, I wasn't excited about a first floor unit.

If you take a look, you'll find some elevator buildings in the neighborhood have pretty low maintenance. Most seem to be post-war buildings.

Here's a two bedroom on a higher floor for $763
http://www.mlsli.com/homes-for-sale/35-51-85-St-Jackson-Heights-NY-11372-200931874][url]http://www.mlsli.com/homes-for-sale/35-51-85-St-Jackson-Heights-NY-11372-200931874 [/url]

Here's a three bedroom at Southridge with even lower maintenance.
http://www.mlsli.com/homes-for-sale/33-05-90th-St-Jackson-Heights-NY-11372-198805866

Here's a two bedroom at Washington Plaza with a maintenance for less than $900 (which surprised me to find. I'm guessing the second bedroom is itty bitty and it's a low floor)
http://www.mlsli.com/homes-for-sale/73-12-35th-Ave-Jackson-Heights-NY-11372-200517928

Here's a junior 4 with maintenance less than $750
http://www.mlsli.com/homes-for-sale/77-11-35th-Ave-Jackson-Heights-NY-11372-198042635

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2017, 01:00:31 PM »
I wonder how low your maintenance payments might be if you didn't have an elevator, or stairs?  Of course, it may be a pain in the neck climbing up and down the fire escape everyday.........especially on a cold, snowy day........and with a new TV in hand.........with a broken arm!