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Offline dssjh

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2017, 02:35:25 PM »
walk ups can definitely be starter apartments.

most people don't see a $350,000 (just throwing a number out there) apartment as a starter. that's a home.


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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2017, 06:17:49 PM »
walk ups can definitely be starter apartments.

most people don't see a $350,000 (just throwing a number out there) apartment as a starter. that's a home.

Well they should see that price as a starter.  $350K is what you might pay for a studio...if you're lucky... in most of NYC. (That is, NYC near a subway). That's just the facts of today's real estate market.

I'm only reporting what's around in NYC. 'cause I check 'em out.   (The Bronx is the only place left for below $350K)

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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2017, 06:27:35 PM »
i know what the market says.

i also know that a $1500 mortgage plus $750(ish) maintenance requires a little more salary than most "starter home"- minded folks are able to scrape together.

does this mean mere workers need to commute in from monmouth county from now on?

perhaps so.

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2017, 06:35:27 PM »
i know what the market says.

i also know that a $1500 mortgage plus $750(ish) maintenance requires a little more salary than most "starter home"- minded folks are able to scrape together.

does this mean mere workers need to commute in from monmouth county from now on?

perhaps so.

I believe in New Yorkers' endless creativity.

This below will be the housing of the future for cities like NYC...

https://www.common.com/

The concept of a completely private home/space will transform.

Much like WeWork has changed the definition of an office environment.

This change will be led by the young.

And we should be thankful they are thinking this way!

The mobility of technology has influenced the way they are conceptualizing everything.  Living, working and eating.

To the future! I say in 5 or 10 years the above style of living will be ubiquitous. Young folks will be buying shares in the above model.

(It'll be kinda like the opposite of suburban living. And much closer to communal, kibbutz-like living.  The cost of real estate in NYC these days dictates it.)







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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2017, 07:18:57 PM »
we've been down this road before, when you were moving LGA to Montgomery County. Americans, even young ones, are not, by nature, kibbutz-like creatures. and i know both young Americans and people who've lived on kibbutzes.

yes, i am mired in the past.

true, i have no imagination.

indeed, i will be left behind when the glorious new society blossoms.

but i will collect royalties from the neuro-step national anthem i'm writing for its ascendance.

:)

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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2017, 07:50:46 PM »
^^^Knee issues and arthritis have been on my mind since my early 30s. By the time I was 38, my parents had four knee replacements. I also remember my grandparents and great aunts and uncles struggling with arthritis.

^^people with mobility issues use the buses a lot more, and when using the subway they try to use stations with elevators. When you are stuck behind someone going up or down the stairs kind of slow, I'd guess you're probably behind someone whose knees kind of hurt (or hip).

If I lived outside of the city, I'd definitely be looking to buy a ranch. Or at least a place where the master suite is on the first floor.

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2017, 07:58:58 PM »
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Much like WeWork has changed the definition of an office environment.

I've been to WeWork. Most offices haven't transformed themselves to be like WeWork. I've been to a lot of offices, and most of them are just awful.

Offline ljr

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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2017, 11:51:25 PM »
Yes, subway stairs will eventually become an issue--and then there are buses and of course now Ubers and all the other car services. Still better than having to drive everywhere at that older age, so the city still has a big advantage over suburban living for older people. As for WeWork--in my new job I'm working at one. I had no idea there were so many of these places all over NYC now--lots of WeWorks and also other similar co-working spaces. It just makes so much sense really. Shared working spaces and living spaces--I do think that is the wave of the future, and I'm all for it.

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2017, 09:04:47 AM »
walk ups can definitely be starter apartments.

most people don't see a $350,000 (just throwing a number out there) apartment as a starter. that's a home.

yea it was one thing to buy these apts when they were 75k or so in the 90's... but paying half a million for a walkup in queens is another story all together. That's a humongous financial commitment that few can make. Not just an easy starter home.

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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2017, 09:05:46 AM »
Oh and Eddie, each of the six buildings in the Colonials is independently managed so the presence or amount of a reserve would depend on the building.

interesting didnt know that, i saw a unit there a long time ago and I guess that building had no reserve which was a big red flag for me personally. old building + few units = big assessments/maint increase if anything major needs repair.

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« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2017, 10:10:17 AM »
we've been down this road before, when you were moving LGA to Montgomery County. Americans, even young ones, are not, by nature, kibbutz-like creatures. and i know both young Americans and people who've lived on kibbutzes.

yes, i am mired in the past.

true, i have no imagination.

indeed, i will be left behind when the glorious new society blossoms.

but i will collect royalties from the neuro-step national anthem i'm writing for its ascendance.

:)

There was no ad hominem attack in my comment.

And none should be conjectured.

I am simply excited by the prospect of future creative housing solutions.

As for the knees' issues, I guess in 25 years or so, external robotics might become a viable thing for old folk. Nature seems to have done a poor job with human knees. And appears to need help!

Yes, $500K is a lot for a walk-up.

But the same apartment would be $750K in Brooklyn! And over a million in the West Village!

That's simply the tough fact of real estate prices out there these days in NYC.









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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2017, 10:39:54 PM »
NYC of the Future: Trudging up stairs aided by mechanical knees to common eating areas serving soylent green.

While their convenience can't be denied, elevators do mean higher monthly maintenances, major repair/replacement assessments and daily awkward silences.  I know one of the Hawthorne Courts was considering decommissioning their elevator because of the awesome replacement costs.  The +/- comes down to personal taste.




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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2017, 06:38:22 PM »
i was referencing many ad hominem attacks in the past, mostly in our discussions about LGA, which subjects all of us to non-stop noise on a daily basis -- a problem i recall you suggesting we solve by closing it and building a new airport 90 minutes outside the city.

be that as it may. there will soon be more old people than young ones. they're not dying, and generation z is showing less interest in breeding. it will be an interesting 47 or so years.

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Re: The Colonials
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2017, 10:57:46 AM »
Further co-living developments are being planned.  Including in Queens.  (LIC)

http://www.ollie.co/new-york-city-locations/

I guess in 10 years or so, (+/-) this concept will be prevalent...and reach here in Jackson Heights.

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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2017, 03:10:06 PM »
the model is going to have to change significantly in order for it to become "prevalent."

the one that's up and running has small studio-style living quarters "starting in the $2600s," which translates into roughly $31,000 per year. the median income in queens is $54,000.

will this one particular type of real estate devalue to meet market needs? will we force the wretched refuse onto floes in jamaica bay?