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Offline dssjh

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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #330 on: April 16, 2018, 11:51:17 AM »
by JK Resident's standards, there are no high end restaurants anywhere in Queens. these are comparatively costly for *most* people. not as "high end" as a 300 pp omakase, but costly for someone who's bringing home a middle class salary. $150 for dinner and wine for two is not something i can lay out every night, or, really, every week. those who can can also probably afford an Uber to get to a place where pricier food can be had in loftier surroundings.

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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #331 on: April 16, 2018, 12:45:54 PM »
The vast majority of stores on 37th Ave. cater towards poor people. This is not Austin Street in Forest Hills. There used to be decent stores but most of those upper middle class people have moved. Over 25% of the people in CB 3 live below the federal poverty line. Most of the people that rent spend most of their rent on greedy landlords who continue to raise the rent pricing many of the poor out of the neighborhood. Those inflated real estate values are not really accurate and most of the housing is inhttps://communityprofiles.planning.nyc.gov/queens/3 a poor condition. Look at the statistics for CB3. Stop the personal attacks and flaunting your homophobia. 


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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #332 on: April 16, 2018, 01:18:49 PM »
the question is JK Resident, why do you on insult people who consider Armondo's, etc. by describing them as laughable for considering those restaurants as costly? Did your parents so completely fail to teach you basic civility that you don't understand your words are rude and insulting?

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the apartments in the buildings right behind Swim Two Birds sell for between $850,000 and $950,000+.  Many of the other buildings have units in the $500,000 range.  There are plenty of potential customers for a moderately expensive restaurant.

Important to keep in mind that many of those residents didn't buy their apartments at current market prices though. If someone bought their apartment even just 4 years ago, while their net worth will have jumped up because of the increase in the value of their home, that doesn't make them more flush with money.
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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #333 on: April 16, 2018, 01:38:09 PM »
the question is JK Resident, why do you on insult people who consider Armondo's, etc. by describing them as laughable for considering those restaurants as costly? Did your parents so completely fail to teach you basic civility that you don't understand your words are rude and insulting?

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the apartments in the buildings right behind Swim Two Birds sell for between $850,000 and $950,000+.  Many of the other buildings have units in the $500,000 range.  There are plenty of potential customers for a moderately expensive restaurant.

Important to keep in mind that many of those residents didn't buy their apartments at current market prices though. If someone bought their apartment even just 4 years ago, while their net worth will have jumped up because of the increase in the value of their home, that doesn't make them more flush with money.

I agree that some people purchased their apartments prior to the jump in prices--although even four or five years ago units in Hawthorne Court cost around $700,000--but my point is there are enough customers to support a casual american bistro.

The vast majority of stores on 37th Ave. cater towards poor people. This is not Austin Street in Forest Hills. There used to be decent stores but most of those upper middle class people have moved. Over 25% of the people in CB 3 live below the federal poverty line. Most of the people that rent spend most of their rent on greedy landlords who continue to raise the rent pricing many of the poor out of the neighborhood. Those inflated real estate values are not really accurate and most of the housing is inhttps://communityprofiles.planning.nyc.gov/queens/3 a poor condition. Look at the statistics for CB3. Stop the personal attacks and flaunting your homophobia. 



What do you mean JK Resident by "flaunting your homophobia"?

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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #334 on: April 16, 2018, 04:33:44 PM »
The vast majority of stores on 37th Ave. cater towards poor people. This is not Austin Street in Forest Hills. There used to be decent stores but most of those upper middle class people have moved. Over 25% of the people in CB 3 live below the federal poverty line. Most of the people that rent spend most of their rent on greedy landlords who continue to raise the rent pricing many of the poor out of the neighborhood. Those inflated real estate values are not really accurate and most of the housing is inhttps://communityprofiles.planning.nyc.gov/queens/3 a poor condition. Look at the statistics for CB3. Stop the personal attacks and flaunting your homophobia.

I dont thnk that STB would have been a good match for the neighborhoor. A high end French restaurant never sounds like its going to be within the financial reach of most people in general. My experience with French cuisine is that although excellent, its a bit more of an acquired taste tham say "American casual," Chinese, and Latin options that are more common in the neighborhood. The restaurant business is very challenging and many new restaurants tend to fail within two years of opening. So, in my opinion, I think that Swim Two Birds, if it had opened , might not have been a financial success although excellent cuisine might have been served there.

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Re: Swim Two Birds Evicted
« Reply #335 on: April 16, 2018, 05:02:41 PM »
Wasn't Swim Two Birds going to be a bistro? I thought that was the idea. Important to remember, bistros by definition means modest. Looks like the Queensboro will be opening soon, and they are describing themselves as a bistro as well I think. So we'll see.

Sure, anyone who could afford a $700K apartment 4 years ago can no doubt eat at a bistro frequently.  But also, let's remember that someone who bought a $700K apartment four years ago wasn't buying a one bedroom, and because there are fewer multi-bedroom apartments than one bedrooms, there is greater competition for them which bumps up the price. I just think we shouldn't forget that just because apartments are selling for a lot today, that doesn't mean the majority
 of the neighborhood is moneyed. Truth be told, if I were looking to buy today, I wouldn't be buying in JH because I couldn't afford it now.


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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #336 on: May 07, 2018, 06:55:39 PM »
So many rumours :)

Swim Two Birds is happening.

Special thanks to the Jackson Heights Life participants who helped.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 07:13:29 PM by Stew »

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #337 on: May 07, 2018, 07:14:22 PM »
well, having thick packets of eviction papers taped to the door wasn't a rumor, but glad that you've managed to work through that.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #338 on: May 07, 2018, 07:16:47 PM »
So many rumours :)

Swim Two Birds is happening.

Special thanks to the Jackson Heights Life participants who helped.

When can we expect the grand opening? We have been waiting for a long time.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #339 on: May 07, 2018, 07:35:24 PM »
well, having thick packets of eviction papers taped to the door wasn't a rumor, but glad that you've managed to work through that.

One of the wonderful features of rumours is that seven 8 1/2” x 11” pieces of typewriter paper can suddenly be more colourfully described as “thick packets”, and that the content can be assumed to be unassailable.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #340 on: May 07, 2018, 07:57:38 PM »
So many rumours :)

Swim Two Birds is happening.

Special thanks to the Jackson Heights Life participants who helped.

When can we expect the grand opening? We have been waiting for a long time.

Thanks for the question.

There are about five days of work to do to complete the physical space. For reasons having to do with the availability of artisans, this will take about three weeks, meaning the end of May.

The remaining issues are regulatory (inspections, etc), which the city controls in terms of timing, and engaging and training staff.

I am still committed to a soft opening. A cold “grand opening” is a recipe for unpredictable food and service and for being clobbered on this site :)

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #341 on: May 07, 2018, 08:04:05 PM »
Glad to hear you were able to work things out. I, along with many others, are looking forward to the opening of the restaurant. 

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #342 on: May 07, 2018, 08:16:20 PM »
Glad to hear you were able to work things out. I, along with many others, are looking forward to the opening of the restaurant.

And I look forward to receiving you as a guest, and even more to ensuring that you have a memorable evening. Or, more lightheartedly, a fun brunch.

It’s been a long road, but it’s happening.

Cheers,

Stew

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #343 on: May 07, 2018, 09:32:21 PM »
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY -- ahem -- I mean, great to hear, Stew! Just so excited for this :)

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #344 on: May 07, 2018, 10:47:00 PM »
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY -- ahem -- I mean, great to hear, Stew! Just so excited for this :)

We have to invite you to be one of our first customers!
« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 11:00:26 PM by Stew »