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Offline CaptainFlannel

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2017, 08:41:47 AM »
^imagine what my level of idiocy must be since I have zero knowledge about Novo. After all, only an idiot doesn't know.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2017, 12:29:22 PM »
Here ya go!

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2017, 07:09:14 PM »
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On the downside, only an idiot doesn't know what was going on with restaurants like Novo, including the problems with noise, drugs and weapons, and Novo's role as a major host for functions of the main local political party.

As charming as ever!

I only went to Novo a few times, but it never struck me as a hotbed of illegal activity--drugs and weapons.  Is there any proof to back this up.  And Stew, are you implying that the local Democrats were involved in some type of illegal behavior?  Really.

Novo was, quite literally, a s__show. Sorry that's about the only wayt to describe it. Loud, bouncer outside, parties till early morning with people fighting and people whipping out guns. It was a blight on the area it was in. I saw these things happening outside it at early AM hours myself.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2017, 10:00:26 PM »
I really don't remember Novo that way.  I didn't go there often, but I had some civilized dinners there.  I can't vouch for what it was like in the late night hours.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2017, 10:42:03 PM »
i ate dinner there fairly often and never had any issues. the couple of times i went there late for drinks, there were loud, obnoxious drunk guys - sort of like most bars. heard plenty of shouting, no shooting.

no more dangerous than, say, sparks steak house.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2017, 04:09:09 PM »
Is Novo the place that used to occupy where Arunee Thai is now?
 
If it is, I guess that means my level of idiocy as defined by Stew is down one notch.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2017, 05:50:28 PM »
That's the place. Congrats on your step to enlightenment!

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2017, 06:05:41 PM »
I recall having a few too many insert fruity juice here "martinis" in there ages ago. I was so glad it was near my apartment at the time so I made it home to my bed with no delay. And then I left the neighborhood and came back and it was gone. I remain fairly unenlightened to what happened to it (other than shutting down as many restaurants do. It's a tough business.) and why "only a idiot" doesn't know what was going on there. Here I am, college educated and an entrepreneur, but still I've fallen in to idiocy.

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Re: Status of Swim Two Birds Restaurant
« Reply #83 on: April 01, 2017, 04:20:44 PM »
Still thinking about oysters and seafood platters tonight :)

Brooklyn's Maison Premiere, which I assume took its name from a Paris restaurant that I worked at called Maison Prunier, has become extremely popular for oysters and platters.

I don't know whether there will be the same demand in Jackson Heights - maybe with younger people - but I want to try offering oysters from Long Island as well as further north to Maine, New Brunswick, Quebec and Prince Edward Island.

For a special occasion, I'd be into bringing in some of the truly great French oysters, the subject of Eleanor Clark's "Oysters of Locmariaquer", which won the National Book Award for Non-Fiction.

We're going to have some fun with this restaurant.

Hi Stew- It's great to hear that you are open. We are psyched for the raw bar! I wrote you a long time ago about my partner that imports Spanish wines (Spain Wine Collection). My son's image is on a bottle of rose wine we bring (bobal) called "Lucatoni"- his name is Luca Antonio. Don't forget to look us up and please don't forget about clams on the half shell! We love them too.
Cheers!
-Holly

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« Reply #84 on: May 04, 2017, 10:07:05 PM »
A short update on Swim Two Birds.

People in the immediate area will start seeing a good deal of renovation activity starting Monday or Tuesday. The new work will take the restaurant interior from 75%/80% complete to 100% complete. This work will take 4-6 weeks.

After that, there's lots to do, including hiring and training staff and a soft/trial opening.

Thanks to all of you who have expressed support for this project.

Stew





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« Reply #85 on: May 04, 2017, 10:38:51 PM »
Regarding staff...

We want to offer first class service and food.

That said, we are committed to hiring, and training, young people in the area who want to work in hospitality. The question is whether our clientele will tolerate that.

Our preference is to follow Danny Meyer, Amanda Cohen and others by doing away with tipping, but there is a very real question about whether Jackson Heights will support this, or whether we need to use the traditional formula at least in the beginning. There are many people who believe, rightly or wrongly, that waiting staff who do not depend on tips give inferior service.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 10:48:28 PM by Stew »

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« Reply #86 on: May 04, 2017, 10:56:13 PM »
I very much like restaurants that include the tip in the check. Just ate at one now across the street from my house, M. Wells. Freek's Mill in Gowanus is the same story. I say go for it. I've never gotten bad because the tip was inclusive.

Side fun fact: I helped open Amanda Cohen's Dirt Candy when I was in college, doing the PR and blogger outreach leading up to and after the opening. Memories!

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« Reply #87 on: May 04, 2017, 11:17:42 PM »
Side fun fact: I helped open Amanda Cohen's Dirt Candy when I was in college, doing the PR and blogger outreach leading up to and after the opening. Memories!

 Very cool. While our restaurant will not be vegetarian, Amanda Cohen is on the leading edge of some important restaurant issues.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 11:25:25 PM by Stew »

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Re: Yes
« Reply #88 on: May 05, 2017, 08:17:44 AM »
I think if you do a good job of communicating that the pay your waitstaff gets is commensurate with a no tipping policy AND there are no issues with the quality if service, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: Yes
« Reply #89 on: May 05, 2017, 10:01:23 AM »
When I travel overseas to places where there is no tipping I feel guilty walking away from the table or bar without leaving anything. I would feel more guilty if I did that here even if those were the rules. I like tipping, especially in a local place where building a relationship with the staff adds something to the experience.