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Simka · « **Reply #30 on:** April 03, 2016, 09:37:13 AM »

Quote from: hum@njukebox1 on April 03, 2016, 09:22:18 AM

Does the beautiful furniture come with the apartment? Anyone know the name of the company doing the renovations? Looks very nice to me.

Those photos are "renderings," not real photos. I love how they've pasted Manhattan views into photos that are meant to represent second, third, and fourth-floor apartments.

(Does even the top floor on the 73rd Street side get Manhattan views?)

I find it interesting that on the Nu-Place site, they claim that the building is wheelchair accessible. As I mentioned before, it's only accessible by wheelchair if the basement isn't locked. Also, I don't know for sure that the ramp on 73rd meets the standards for accessibility in terms of width, etc.

http://www.nuplacerealty.com/JacksonHeights/Coop/73-12-35th-Ave-JACKSON-HEIGHTS-NY/1035

P.S. Shelby2, would it be okay to start a new topic on Washington Plaza?

petster · « **Reply #31 on:** April 03, 2016, 10:21:59 AM »

I remember quite a few years ago looking at an apartment in WP. I know several people who live there and really like it. It is NOT Art Deco, but beautiful in its own right. I love passing and seeing the interior garden and water feature. It's a little oasis. It sure is close to the subway. You would certainly "NOT" see a city view from all floors and streets. This is true anywhere. If you go to LIC, they show spectacular waterfront views, but not every apartment has that. When they do, you can bet they are paying a premium for it. In WP, the fact remains that there are several apartments where the view of the Manhattan skyline is really great. Interior renderings are just that. They are renderings and so personal taste accounts for the pictures they are presenting. The apartment is the canvass and you can decorate as much or as little as you'd like. I had always thought that this was already a coop. Did they attempt a conversion before? Whatever the case, you'd be hard lucked to find an apartment with such square footage at a lower price and it is not out of line with what apartments are going for especially when one considers pricing in Brooklyn and Manhattan. Yes they are expensive. Yes, it is all an exaggeration, but that would be true in almost any conversion or "sale" as the object is to sell.

hum@njukebox1 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 03, 2016, 11:17:25 AM »

As I look more closely at the photos and the floor plan, the kitchen, as well as the living room do not seem to match the floor plan. In particular, the photos appear to show a beautiful "open" kitchen, while the floor plan suggests otherwise. (I thought they had pasted in a beautiful view of Manhattan. Only to disappoint the prospective buyer once they arrived.) Still, curious to see one.

Simka · « **Reply #33 on:** April 03, 2016, 11:36:44 AM »

Quote from: hum@njukebox1 on April 03, 2016, 11:17:25 AM

As I look more closely at the photos and the floor plan, the kitchen, as well as the living room do not seem to match the floor plan. In particular, the photos appear to show a beautiful "open" kitchen, while the floor plan suggests otherwise. (I thought they had pasted in a beautiful view of Manhattan. Only to disappoint the prospective buyer once they arrived.) Still, curious to see one.

I'm sure they'd love to have you come look. They have staged at least one apartment for showing.

The renderings are hilariously out of touch with reality. Anyone notice the smiling "doorman" in the gatehouse? He's out of scale and also mostly fictional. And the gate by the gatehouse isn't there, and the lobby image doesn't jibe, structurally, with any of the actual lobbies. (Speaking of the floor plan, I'm surprised that the curved dining area wall is shown. I was told those are being eliminated.)

P.S. Thanks to Shelby2 for rejiggering the thread so we have one specifically about WP.

hum@njukebox1 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 03, 2016, 12:14:22 PM »

Do they at least have a doorman with a frown?

hfm · « **Reply #35 on:** April 03, 2016, 12:37:36 PM »

Man I came to bash the renderings, specifically the view and completely fantasy doorman. Glad to see I'm not alone.

I will say, just looking at the facts, 914sqft is a pretty big 1bd/1ba. It doesn't seem completely out of whack for present day given the growing popularity of the neighborhood, bit then again it is a coop not a condo.

Simka · « **Reply #36 on:** April 03, 2016, 08:43:09 PM »

Quote from: hum@njukebox1 on April 03, 2016, 12:14:22 PM

Do they at least have a doorman with a frown?

Lol. No, not that either! They have part-time gatehouse attendants, so during certain hours, someone is on-duty. But they don't sit at the window (as depicted); they're doing things, like monitoring camera feeds or delivering packages to residents or turning sprinklers on or off. Often there's a note on the gatehouse door saying "In the lobbies" or "In the basement." And I have no problem with that, because I was never told the guys would be sitting there all the time and greeting residents and screening nonresidents.

I guess the sponsor may be planning to increase the coverage of the gatehouse. If so, I hope that's already been allowed for in the maintenance, which is awfully high already.

eddie · « **Reply #37 on:** April 03, 2016, 09:01:41 PM »

there are probably plans to improve the building, common areas, and staff... so it's not fair to compare it to the current state as a rental.

Lilybell · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2016, 09:38:24 AM »

These photos are hilarious. I love the views outside of the windows, lol. I'll be psyched if they renovate our lobbies like in the photo, though.

I do plan to purchase my unit and I'd kill for that bathroom reno. Maybe I can negotiate it somehow.

Simka · « **Reply #39 on:** April 04, 2016, 09:30:20 PM »

Quote from: eddie on April 03, 2016, 09:01:41 PM

there are probably plans to improve the building, common areas, and staff... so it's not fair to compare it to the current state as a rental.

Oh, I think it's fair. Sure, it's not fair to say "There's no fitness center!" when Nu-Place claims there is one, because that could well be in the works. But it's absolutely fair to point out that the window views depicted in the "renderings" are impossible, no matter what improvements are made to the building. And it's fair to point out that the rendering of a lobby doesn't reflect the layout of any of the complex's six lobbies (which are not flexible spaces). And it's fair to point out that the smiling man in the gatehouse would have to be sitting in a chair with his knees crammed against the wall to get that close to the window.

I'm not saying this is illegal or immoral, I'm just saying it's laughable. They're presenting something so many light-years away from reality that people are bound to be disappointed when they come to look at the real thing. And there's even a model apartment, already staged, that could have been photographed. There are numerous other apartments that have been renovated that could have been photographed, too. But for some reason Nu-Place felt compelled to create shiny fictional images with Emerald City–like views of Manhattan.

iqtsarah · « **Reply #40 on:** April 04, 2016, 10:20:34 PM »

Here you can see the old floor plan of many apartments.
http://nyre.cul.columbia.edu/projects/view/26049

CaptainFlannel · « **Reply #41 on:** April 05, 2016, 08:16:00 AM »

Looking at the floor plans, it looks like many of the apartments could easily have an open kitchen by taking down a wall. I just can't see much to get upset about by the renderings. It's a conversion, so it seems to me the renderings of the building and amenities are representing what's to come. And obviously a Manhattan view isn't guaranteed for every apartment (if any). You kind of have to be a giant sucker to think that's a possibility. If I were going to look at the model apartment, I'd have lots of questions about *when* the changes to the building where happening.

I knew someone who used to pick up hours working at the sales office of a new build going up some years ago in LIC. One thing he was never, ever supposed to tout was the view on the Manhattan side because there was no guarantee that view would remain forever.

eddie · « **Reply #42 on:** April 05, 2016, 08:52:03 AM »

Quote from: Simka on April 04, 2016, 09:30:20 PM

Quote from: eddie on April 03, 2016, 09:01:41 PM
there are probably plans to improve the building, common areas, and staff... so it's not fair to compare it to the current state as a rental.
Oh, I think it's fair. Sure, it's not fair to say "There's no fitness center!" when Nu-Place claims there is one, because that could well be in the works. But it's absolutely fair to point out that the window views depicted in the "renderings" are impossible, no matter what improvements are made to the building. And it's fair to point out that the rendering of a lobby doesn't reflect the layout of any of the complex's six lobbies (which are not flexible spaces). And it's fair to point out that the smiling man in the gatehouse would have to be sitting in a chair with his knees crammed against the wall to get that close to the window.

I'm not saying this is illegal or immoral, I'm just saying it's laughable. They're presenting something so many light-years away from reality that people are bound to be disappointed when they come to look at the real thing. And there's even a model apartment, already staged, that could have been photographed. There are numerous other apartments that have been renovated that could have been photographed, too. But for some reason Nu-Place felt compelled to create shiny fictional images with Emerald City–like views of Manhattan.

i guess i'm used to it, just about every conversion or new condo for sale i've seen has exaggerated renderings, they are after all trying to sell you something.

Simka · « **Reply #43 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:05:09 AM »

Quote from: eddie on April 05, 2016, 08:52:03 AM

i guess i'm used to it, just about every conversion or new condo for sale i've seen has exaggerated renderings, they are after all trying to sell you something.

It's funny, but I've only seen it once before--in the ads for that conversion in Elmhurst (also, apparently, by Nu-Place). They were plastered all over the subway station. I was so amused by the bizarrely large leaves outside the apartment windows, I took a picture. I'll have to look for that.

When I've looked at coop listings, they've all been for single apartments in existing coops, so I've missed this sort of listing. But I know what you're saying, and I do realize they're trying to sell something. I'm just amazed that anyone can look at glossily rendered images and not immediately smell BS. And if I looked at something like that but still decided to go look at the actual building and apartment, I'd see how different they were from the renderings and that would make me have a very bad feeling about the honesty of the sponsor. But hey...that's me. I don't doubt that there are people who'd get all excited about how swankalicious this place is going to be in the not-too-distant future.

Simka · « **Reply #44 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:10:09 AM »

Quote from: CaptainFlannel on April 05, 2016, 08:16:00 AM

Looking at the floor plans, it looks like many of the apartments could easily have an open kitchen by taking down a wall. I just can't see much to get upset about by the renderings. It's a conversion, so it seems to me the renderings of the building and amenities are representing what's to come. And obviously a Manhattan view isn't guaranteed for every apartment (if any). You kind of have to be a giant sucker to think that's a possibility. If I were going to look at the model apartment, I'd have lots of questions about *when* the changes to the building where happening.

Really, I'm not upset. I think it's ridiculous, but I'm laughing, not whining. If anything bothers me, it's the fact that there are giant suckers, and there are others ready to take advantage of them. But that's everywhere, not just in this conversion.

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