Author Topic: DOB rules for installing new Gas stove + uninstalling old one to existing line?  (Read 7440 times)

Offline artsub

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My co-op requires that I hire a licensed plumber to switch from my old gas stove to a new one. They say that the NYC Buildings Dept. requires this. If this is true, then all the people using the installation services from Home Depot and Best Buy, etc. are breaking the law. I don't think it's true. Does anyone know? It's going to cost me too much to do this tiny job. Not to mention that many plumbers don't want to touch the job because they have to file all the papers with the management company. But even with that, it's not more than a 30 minute job, so it pisses me off that I'm going to have to pay so much to do it, not to mention all the extra legwork (armwork) I have to do searching for a plumber who will do this. It's not going to help me, but if I can find out the truth and get my co-op to change their rules I might save someone else from all the trouble I'm going thru right now. I tried calling the DOB but so far to no avail.

Offline rhydewithdis

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Have you asked your co-op to point you to the DOB code where this is specified?

Offline artfldodger

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I don't believe it's a DoB thing, their focus is with the risers and piping.  I think your co-op's concern is making sure whomever is doing the work has the proper insurance(s) in case there are any issues.

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My first call would be to the building's Super
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Thanks to all who responded.
I'm having no luck finding a plumber for this.
I just got a referral to a plumber who quoted me $6-700 for doing this work. Not going to happen at that price.

Can anyone help with a plumber in Jackson Hts. who is willing to file the paperwork with building management company? Many plumbers don't want to work for coops.

Offline moxybyproxy

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When I redid my kitchen, I used Dundee Plumbing and Heating (from Jamaica Estates, licensed and passed my co-op board).  They disconnected the stove from the gas line, hooked the stove back up when the cabinets were in, and did the same for the water line under the sink.  Total cost was $500.  They spent a few HOURS under the sink to replace all the old pipes with new ones and to make sure everything worked properly between sink and dishwasher.  I thought they did a great job and didn't regret the cost.  I'm sure if the gas line is the only part you need work on, they'll charge you less.

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Thanks for your response. I have been avoiding this issue and just living with a hotplate. But now I need to revisit it. I'll try your plumber.
i now have the info that the form the coop is requiring the plumber to file is called OP128. But my coop is being very unhelpful with guidance about this. When I call plumbers they don't know what this is or else they want to charge me over $1000 to file it.
I see on the DOB website that this is a form that plumbers are supposed to file for very small jobs. It can include up to 20 jobs and can be filed after the job is finished  It costs $100 for the plumber to file it.
But after they file it is the DOB going to provide proof to my coop that the plumber filed this? I doubt that very much?
I'm so not knowing what to do.

Offline Ms. Jackson

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We had a plumber hook up our stove and it cost $150. I doubt he filed anything with DOB, though. We then had to have National Grid come out and check the connection and turn on the gas. That was free.

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During our move in and renovation, I've realized that co-ops are funny sort of animals.  Not nearly as tyrannical as street chatter would suggest, but more like a combination of brilliant and befuddled.  I agree with your assessment of the OP128 and I'd wager that your co-op doesn't need to see it, as it sounds like someone quoting from a manual rather than applying normal procedure.  I'd ask your co-op for a copy of a past OP128 submitted by a shareholder who has done the same (or ask other shareholders).  If they do indeed produce one, score one for bureaucracy.  If not, b.s. bells should be ringing.  I'd press ahead, get the plumber's license, the COI and also I'd type up a little blurb about the work they are performing and have them sign it, submit it all and install that sucker. 

Ms. Jackson has a plumber that cost less than ours.  Ours was $400 to hook up the stove and hook up our kitchen sink, so overall pretty reasonable.  It's grating that a licensed and insured contractor could do it for $50, but forbid should anything happen, you want your investment legally protected. 

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I have a similar question: does anyone know if I'll need a city permit to move the gas line about 8 feet? My contractor is licensed/insured and I'm sure he could change out the existing stove, no problem. We'd like to relocate the stove, but won't do it if we have to wait for a permit.
Thanks in advance!