Author Topic: Post office drunkards (Read 9796 times)

ClydeM · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2021, 10:57:41 PM »

Quote from: dssjh on July 08, 2021, 09:47:24 PM

some people get joy out of attacking the less fortunate. i pity them for their lack of decency. the smell of a homeless person is far, far preferable to that of someone without decency.

Being homeless is indeed unfortunate, and also much different than being constantly drunk, always unsanitary, and sometimes aggressive. This is a public health/safety issue. Please stop trying to pretend that it isn't. Also, these gentlemen have made a choice to adopt this as a lifestyle, something that I haven't seen the other unfortunate people in our neighborhood do. I'll gladly give the woman who comes by my building looking for bottles some cash a few times a week because I know that she has two children to take care for.

These men have harassed women, and exposed themselves to everyone on the sidewalk, while making absolutely no effort to improve their situation. Do you also pity them for their lack of decency? Sorry, but these aren't people who are simply unfortunate. The unfortunate I can understand, and will try to help them, but I've run out of sympathy for this crew. It appears that several others have as well.

abcdefghijk · « **Reply #46 on:** July 09, 2021, 09:29:53 AM »

The city provides homeless shelters. AA meetings are everywhere. Mental health issues can be managed if a person continues their medication. Church (etc) outreach group are available. The solutions exist.

Being an adult means taking responsibility for one's situation and actions.

Sanctimonious attitudes don't help anyone.

Except to make people who spout them believe they are superior.

dssjh · « **Reply #47 on:** July 09, 2021, 10:05:09 AM »

and i'm not in any way suggesting that the situation is tenable or acceptable, simply objecting to the dehumanizing, vituperative tone taken by some.

E train · « **Reply #48 on:** July 09, 2021, 07:42:31 PM »

I can't speak for others but whatever "vituperative tone" I can summon is for the political class in our community who have not addressed what is a growing threat to civil life in our community. There is a deafening silence when it comes to these quality of life concerns.
Yesterday I took a walk down 37th Ave and the man who on 77th St is still there(joined by another man who has taken up a spot slightly up 77th). Food cartons are all over, open and spilling its contents. Further down 37th the garbage can on 76th was overflowing with bags that were all over the street. This was replicated on other corners and on 74th St

As I would not dehumanise the unfortunates who live on the street I would also hope that those of us who see this as a crisis in the maintenance of civil life for the majority of people who live here are not demonised as heartless or self-interested. If there is a way these men can be helped then they should be helped. What I despair of is our feckless politicians who do nothing to retain the character of the community and who turn the other way when parts of Jackson Heights are in the beginning stage of becoming skid row.

pipman · « **Reply #49 on:** July 09, 2021, 08:44:05 PM »

Diversity Plaza is another area of blight in the neighborhood. Passed by evening of July 4th and there were a number of homeless people, some aggressive and drunk. The horrible shacks that some of the businesses set up makes the plaza more unappealing and scary to walk through at night. This was Danny Dromm's crown jewel. It is not a plaza where anyone can feel comfortable sitting. The few plants are covered in trash. A complete embarrassment as one of the main entries in Jackson Heights from the subway. Why are businesses allowed to take over most of the space. As many stated, our community leaders seem to be absent in trying to improve the neighborhood beyond pushing for the Open Street.

itsit · « **Reply #50 on:** July 10, 2021, 02:40:16 PM »

Quote from: pipman on July 09, 2021, 08:44:05 PM

Diversity Plaza is another area of blight in the neighborhood. Passed by evening of July 4th and there were a number of homeless people, some aggressive and drunk. The horrible shacks that some of the businesses set up makes the plaza more unappealing and scary to walk through at night. This was Danny Dromm's crown jewel. It is not a plaza where anyone can feel comfortable sitting. The few plants are covered in trash. A complete embarrassment as one of the main entries in Jackson Heights from the subway. Why are businesses allowed to take over most of the space. As many stated, our community leaders seem to be absent in trying to improve the neighborhood beyond pushing for the Open Street.

Amen, Pipman! Rome is burning here and by Rome, I mean our commercial districts. So, so much attention to Open Streets when the vital business districts are in crisis. Diversity Plaza had/has so much potential and could still be turned around. We tell guests from out of town arriving by subway to take a different route away from that area which is unfortunate as some of the food is delicious and there are some good retail establishments too. But it's too dirty and chaotic and unwelcoming as a public space. Who's responsible for this area???

abcdefghijk · « **Reply #51 on:** July 10, 2021, 02:54:57 PM »

There is an irony in DIVERSITY PLAZA.
In that it is not at all diverse.
It is, in truth, kinda mono-cultural.

Perhaps it's time to include many of the neighborhoods's various cultures in that plaza?
Somehow?

dssjh · « **Reply #52 on:** July 10, 2021, 03:37:32 PM »

Quote from: abcdefghijk on July 10, 2021, 02:54:57 PM

There is an irony in DIVERSITY PLAZA.
In that it is not at all diverse.
It is, in truth, kinda mono-cultural.

Perhaps it's time to include many of the neighborhoods's various cultures in that plaza?
Somehow?

how?

Octavio Hernandez · « **Reply #53 on:** July 10, 2021, 05:21:14 PM »

Yes, I avoid Perversity—I mean Diversity—Plaza like the plague...it has become a disorganized, unseemly mess of a place...by the way, the guy on the cot who has been camping out on 37th Avenue was spitting at people yesterday. I happened to be walking down 37th Avenue, and several people walked past me complaining about someone spitting at them, and lo and behold, the cot man shuffled by spitting randomly on the sidewalk...here he is today, a bit more subdued and no spittle...just love the vibrancy of Jackson Heights!

abcdefghijk · « **Reply #54 on:** July 10, 2021, 06:03:53 PM »

Quote from: dssjh on July 10, 2021, 03:37:32 PM

Quote from: abcdefghijk on July 10, 2021, 02:54:57 PM
There is an irony in DIVERSITY PLAZA.
In that it is not at all diverse.
It is, in truth, kinda mono-cultural.

Perhaps it's time to include many of the neighborhoods's various cultures in that plaza?
Somehow?

how?

Perhaps by working with the UNITED NATIONS in Manhattan and showcasing a different culture every week in DIVERSITY PLAZA.
That would make it truly live up to its name.

jhlifer · « **Reply #55 on:** July 11, 2021, 01:48:53 PM »

If you look the other way, and say nothing, you only get MORE
If you see something, SAY SOMETHING, to your elected officials.
Certain things, like the situations described in this thread, are simply not acceptable.

Councilmember Daniel Dromm 718 803 6373 ddromm@council.nyc.gov
Councilmember Francisco Moya 718 651 1917 fmoya@council.nyc.gov
Catalina Cruz 718 458 5367 ccruz@nyassembly.gov
Jessica Ramos 718 205 3881 ramos@nysenate.gov
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez 718 662 5970 https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/contact

And it pays to contact Shekar Krishnan, since in our one-party town, he will be our city councilman come January 1. It can't hurt to have him understand the serious concerns of his constituents, and get working on these problems NOW.

Shekar Krishnan contact@voteshekar.com

Last week Councilmember Dromm held a preliminary meeting on a number of issues with the JHBG, and has promised to hold a meeting to include Councilmember Moya on these very topics - inebriated homeless people, street vendors, sanitation issues. The JHBG is following up on this.

Unfortunately, many of our "I'm more progressive than you" candidates and elected officials are too busy addressing other "issues" to attend to the quality of lives of their constituents. Pathetic.

PLEASE CALL AND EMAIL. NOW.

Octavio Hernandez · « **Reply #56 on:** July 11, 2021, 06:17:33 PM »

Just an update. The picture is from yesterday (Saturday) morning. The FDNY and EMT were giving medical attention to some of the barrachos in front of Burger King on 82nd Street. One had bandages around his head. The remaining colony moved over to Rite Aide on 37th Avenue, and today there were more EMT and police dealing with the guys. I had seen the guys drinking this morning, and by the afternoon some of them were passed out. It looked like the EMT were taking some of the worst cases away. Just so sad that this has become such an all to frequent sight in Jackson Heights.

ClydeM · « **Reply #57 on:** July 11, 2021, 07:21:25 PM »

Quote from: jhlifer on July 11, 2021, 01:48:53 PM

If you look the other way, and say nothing, you only get MORE
If you see something, SAY SOMETHING, to your elected officials.
Certain things, like the situations described in this thread, are simply not acceptable.

Councilmember Daniel Dromm 718 803 6373 ddromm@council.nyc.gov
Councilmember Francisco Moya 718 651 1917 fmoya@council.nyc.gov
Catalina Cruz 718 458 5367 ccruz@nyassembly.gov
Jessica Ramos 718 205 3881 ramos@nysenate.gov
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez 718 662 5970 https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/contact

And it pays to contact Shekar Krishnan, since in our one-party town, he will be our city councilman come January 1. It can't hurt to have him understand the serious concerns of his constituents, and get working on these problems NOW.

Shekar Krishnan contact@voteshekar.com

Last week Councilmember Dromm held a preliminary meeting on a number of issues with the JHBG, and has promised to hold a meeting to include Councilmember Moya on these very topics - inebriated homeless people, street vendors, sanitation issues. The JHBG is following up on this.

Unfortunately, many of our "I'm more progressive than you" candidates and elected officials are too busy addressing other "issues" to attend to the quality of lives of their constituents. Pathetic.

PLEASE CALL AND EMAIL. NOW.

So what do we do when we have emailed Moya, Dromm, Ramos, and the NCOs for that sector and get absolutely no response? I've emailed all of them for months about the drunkards, and for years about other issues including a skinny idiot of a drug dealer (he lives on 86th Street if anyone is interested) whose "clients" leave needles in front of my building daily. Sometimes Dromm's office actually responds with a stock message. Moya and Ramos, forget it. Our NCOs? Well they give the impression of actually giving a crap but nothing ever gets done.

But whatevs. So what do you all think: are open streets driving property values up or down?

lalochezia · « **Reply #58 on:** July 11, 2021, 10:14:36 PM »

Quote from: ClydeM on July 11, 2021, 07:21:25 PM

But whatevs. So what do you all think: are open streets driving property values up or down?

Open streets and this issue are entirely separate.

For a matter of thread management, conflating them will make it impossible to have a discussion.

Please don't make statements conflating them; it's an ignorant statement at best and bad faith-lying at worst.

abcdefghijk · « **Reply #59 on:** July 11, 2021, 10:57:17 PM »

Quote from: lalochezia on July 11, 2021, 10:14:36 PM

Quote from: ClydeM on July 11, 2021, 07:21:25 PM

But whatevs. So what do you all think: are open streets driving property values up or down?

Open streets and this issue are entirely separate.

For a matter of thread management, conflating them will make it impossible to have a discussion.

Please don't make statements conflating them; it's an ignorant statement at best and bad faith-lying at worst.

I believe that CLYDEM was being satirical. Funny. Making fun of the way that all folks can do is fight over 34th Ave.
Meanwhile the rest of the area goes down the drain with social problems.

Humor is important. Maybe we should be able to add an emoji to clarify when a person is being sarcastic?
Perhaps an eggplant emoji? Oh, wait, I think that one's taken...

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