Jackson Heights Life

Daniel Karatzas - thanks for the comprehensive letter.  Today the airplane noise seemed to start in the late afternoon and is ongoing.  I did not see any heads-up about this - did anyone have knowledge in advance?

You can always go here for a status on runway 13/31 for the weekend. You don't have to wait for them to tell you.

http://webtrak5.bksv.com/panynj4

There's a messages box that should overlay the map on load with metro area airport maintenance status.

The only solution I have come up with is to escape the neighborhood for the weekends when this occurs. 

To Brooklyn or Manhattan.

It is insane and downright cruel to expect folks to put up with that kind of noise.

Since we were not in the area this morning my husband showed me how to go back in time on that flight tracker (http://webtrak5.bksv.com/panynj4 in the "Flights" panel on the lower left: click the "Historical" tab and then allow it a minute or two to adjust to that time).

I was absolutely shocked at some of the numbers I quickly tallied. There were exactly 30 take offs this morning between 8am & 9:20am?!? After that I couldn't take it anymore. Each one went over those two sensors on 78th. One near 34th ave and the other between 25 & 30 aves.

So I can skip reading the previous 32 pages of this part 2 airplane noise thread, can I ask for some stories of how you all have learned to cope with this ongoing problem? Do you check that website every Friday night and close all your windows, put on white noise and put in earplugs? Get up early when things get noisy and leave the neighborhood for the day? Can anyone please give me some hope that I will be able to cope with this problem?

Thanks in advance.

1) I keep my windows closed year-round due to outside noise and for cleanliness (the air outside is dirty). The only times I open them are when I'm outside for the day and I want a little air circulation for my orchid.

2) I wear earplugs when I sleep - in addition to black-out shades and the Alaskan Bear sleep mask. When I'm not sleeping, I have them on around 75% of the time when I'm home. I purchase a box of Peltor No-Touch earplugs, and it lasts a long time as they are durable and can be washed and reused.

3) For really dire situations, I wear the Peltor Optime 105 over-the-ear earmuffs. I purchased this years ago when I used to live in an apartment with a noisy upstairs neighbor. The combination of the earplugs and earmuffs cut down a significant amount of noise that you can possibly hear.

The earplugs I don't mind wearing all the time, but the earmuffs are tiring so I only use them when absolutely necessary. This combination is decent against the airplanes, but it's definitely not a cure-all because the engines are so powerful. It also depends on close to your particular building that the planes are flying over. I have it on my nightstand if I happen to want to use them.

4) Try to get outside as much as possible on the weekends. Hiking, sports, run errands, hang out with family and friends.

Obviously, it sucks that we have to alter our lives due to this issue, but the best way to deal with it is to surrender to the fact that it's happening, and do everything possible to focus on what we can control. Other than protesting and informing our local politicians, the above are the steps that I personally use to do that.

To add to Jason's post:  I always sleep with a white noise machine. For me, it's more about street noise but it's also helpful for the days when the planes start at 6am.

it's weather.

it's stopped here.

Quote from: dssjh on January 24, 2017, 05:17:01 PM

it's weather.

Weather? So every time it rains - the neighborhood should get bombarded by the planes?

Trite comment. The noise does not increase "every time it rains".

Every time there's a noreaster or other storm with 60mph+gusts that could be dangerous for takeoffs and landings then, yes, plane safety is more important.

 I've been a big advocate for reduction of regular noise, notification in advance of repairs, long term abatement, etc, but come on!

http://panynjpart150.com/LGA_FNEM.asp

Here's the final report.

Examining and analyzing it is pretty complicated.

From what I can gather the noise will increase around 70th Street to over 65 decibels which is all that is indicated.

So...does that mean the rest of us will hear 50-60 decibels?

Which is the sound of light traffic to normal conversation.  In other words there might be a constant sound of noise up to the loudness of normal conversation. All day long.

Or only that level... say to till 75th Street where it might taper off?

Can someone who's into reading/understanding these reports make an educated guess and let us know what we're in for?

Thanks...