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Title: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: toddg on November 09, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Greetings JH Lifers,

We're writing to announce that this website will be closing down on December 31st.

This forum has just passed its 14th birthday.  Our tongue-in-cheek explanation for why the site was founded has always been that the community needed more space to debate the imminent arrival of its first Starbucks (https://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=9).  The first real post on the site (https://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=4) was about an upcoming meeting of the Western Jackson Heights Alliance (https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/nyregion/thecity/11stre.html).  Since then, we've traveled together through a lot of civic activism, political flame wars, complaints about everything, excitement about new restaurants, endless announcements about flea markets.  We've also seen some of our active members pass away, including community leaders Betsy Guthrie (ECG), Tom Lowenhaupt (Tom Lowenhaupt), and Jose Peralta (joseperalta).  It has also been a great place for people to reconnect: our longest active thread has been "Any long time Jackson Heights residents out there? (https://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=64.0)"  and we ended up creating an entire sub-board (https://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?board=15.0) for people who wanted to share memories of days past in the neighborhood.

At this point in time, it feels that there are more options than ever for discussing community issues online, and that the time for a site like this has largely faded.  The activity level on the site is much smaller than it was at its peak, and it's a constant struggle to squash bot accounts and delete spam before it can take over the site.  So rather than abandon it to the weeds for a declining active readership, we've decided it is time to close up shop.

Please use this thread to share your thoughts on JH Life, recommendations for other places for the community to congregate online, or (dare we suggest?) make arrangements to meet up in person!  If there are threads that people found helpful for information gathering, such as contractors, plumbers, we recommend finding those now before the site shuts down.

In celebration of our upcoming retirement, "The Last Word (https://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=648.0)" thread  has been unlocked and awoken from its slumber.

Many thanks to all who have made this site possible.  This has been a labor of love for our administrator merm, and our moderators Shelby2. toddg, Chuckster, and JHMNY.  We are especially grateful to all of you, the participants in this experimental community, for contributing to its success and vitality over the years.  Thank you.

Warm regards,
The Jackson Heights Life Team
merm, Shelby2, toddg, JHMNY
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: lalochezia on November 09, 2021, 09:28:52 PM
Firstly I'd like to thank everyone who ran this site. It was a real service and much appreciated.

That being said, I'm really sad about this and wish you would reconsider - or see if other people would be willing to run the site.

 Oldschool message boards are one of the few relics of the open, non-monetized, non-advertising-soaked,  non-infowar, non-algorithm fueled,  quirky user-generated internet. And they are to be lauded.

Today's social media options DO NOT replace them; I know of no equivalents that aren't on Facebook (spits!), reddit, insta, twitter etc.

Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: abcdefghijk on November 09, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
Thanks JHL.

It's been an immense learning curve on this forum. Much appreciated.

Yes, I can see that it's probably time for far more voices to be heard...and I am aware of Facebook sites with a plethora of opinions...

So, your hard work is much recognized with gratitude.

Only the best to you.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: Bel84 on November 09, 2021, 11:04:52 PM
Really sorry to see this site closing down. I relied on it often for restaurant recommendations and news about the nabe.

I agree with lalochezia that it would be great if you would reconsider or if there are others out there willing to take the

helm. I don't know how I originally found you guys and I wonder if the reason visits are down is because people new to

JH don't even know it exists. Anyway, thanks for all the work you put into it over the years.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on November 10, 2021, 09:04:49 AM
This is sad.   :(
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: JHResident on November 10, 2021, 10:10:25 AM
At this point in time, it feels that there are more options than ever for discussing community issues online, and that the time for a site like this has largely faded.
This site will be sorely missed.  If anyone could post these other options, I'm sure many would appreciate it.  I tend to avoid most social media outlets because of their toxicity, and appreciated the mostly civil discourse the moderators encouraged.

Good luck in your future endeavors.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: JHALUM on November 10, 2021, 12:39:06 PM
I loved this site and found many useful suggestions over the years. Many similar sites have  already shut down because the volume on these type of sites has significantly declined.  Although I would open the web page often I found less and less good reads.  Also when the amount of posters dwindled the same posters would dominate the discussions and post multiple similar opinions on the same threads to get in their last word making some threads unreadable.


I  want to express my gratitude to all those that made it happen.  It was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: ljr on November 10, 2021, 01:35:15 PM
I guess people are using Next Door? This was a very useful site, but I did notice that there were very few active posters on it. There is also the JHFamilies listserv, which is quite active and useful for selling, donating, buying stuff, asking questions about vendors, or general neighborhood discussion. Thanks to the folks who created this site and ran it!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: lalochezia on November 10, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
I guess people are using Next Door?

oh great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextdoor
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: lalochezia on November 10, 2021, 01:58:03 PM
Can this site be archived anywhere? You're not on https://web.archive.org/
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: abcdefghijk on November 10, 2021, 02:20:19 PM
Jackson Heights Group on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/35851988964

It can get wild but at least there are a multitude of many voices on it...including Spanish speaking...so reading it has improved my Spanish. (Including Spanish curse words.)

Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: abcdefghijk on November 10, 2021, 02:39:41 PM
Plus...I think the fact the Facebook Group isn't anonymous is a positive.

It makes folks with impulse control or anger control challenges...perhaps think twice...(tho sometimes not!)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: itsit on November 10, 2021, 04:34:12 PM
 To the Moderators,
    Thanks for all of your work on the site over the years! It truly has been a neighborhood service. Yes, there are other algorithmic places to post locally but the uniqueness of this site has been appreciated. Sorry to hear of this closing and as some others have suggested, maybe someone/some few will come forward to keep it going. We hope so.
    With appreciation,
       Itsit
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: JH.77 on November 10, 2021, 07:56:01 PM
Such sad news. This has been my source of news about JH for years as the amount of news from "local" news sources gets less and less.
I never ever use Facebook and now more than ever I have no reason to go there.
Thanks for your creation, your work and dedication.  You will be missed.
Title: so sorry to hear this
Post by: Suzaan on November 11, 2021, 05:02:28 PM
I understand being tired of doing this, but I hope you have tried to pass it to others.  This is a marvelous neighborhood resource.

Has someone identified what these other substitute sites are for discussing JH news?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: palomita on November 11, 2021, 09:38:54 PM
I agree I will miss this site a lot.
I cannot stand FB/meta, I am barely on it and I briefly joined the 11372 group then had to leave it was so obnoxious.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: r on November 12, 2021, 07:22:33 PM
Sad to see the forum closing. Thanks for keeping it running for so long.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: hagsrus on November 13, 2021, 02:24:35 PM
I will miss it very much!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: lalochezia on November 15, 2021, 07:49:23 AM
Since we haven't heard about archiving options for the site, can we copy some of the "neighborhood FAQs" to this site as a placeholder?

https://reddit.com/r/jacksonheights/new/



specifically, these pages

http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=1640.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=792.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=115.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=38.0
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: forshamegentrifier on November 19, 2021, 11:37:14 AM
Thanks for running this site.  Queens res since 2006 but JH only the last 3.5 years and enjoyed reading it. Sorry to see it go.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: suebe on November 20, 2021, 06:42:43 PM
Can this site be archived anywhere? You're not on https://web.archive.org/
I think that would be a great idea. Especially after 14 years. This is a treasure trove of memories.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: suebe on November 20, 2021, 06:51:40 PM
I just gave a shout out to this group on this FB group JACKSON HEIGHTS, ASTORIA, WOODSIDE NOSTALGIA & HISTORY.

So many people will be sorry to see the end of JHL. Thanks again. Come visit us here on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/518854098245584/?multi_permalinks=2347077115423264%2C2343900185740957%2C2347222962075346%2C2347212392076403%2C2344723445658631&notif_id=1637096996569421&notif_t=group_activity&ref=notif
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: Jeffsayyes on November 20, 2021, 09:34:12 PM
Thank you so much for creating and maintaining this site. It has led to so many inspirations, really made my life better and more passionate. It is going to be hard to get it out of my muscle memory to check it in my free moments. Thanks again, I wish you the best.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: sl on November 23, 2021, 07:59:28 PM
Sad to hear the site is shutting down. I guess all good things must come to an end.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: dssjh on November 25, 2021, 03:38:05 PM
thank you to the moderators for maintaining such a great site for so long and for dealing with so many difficult constituents -- myself included. i'll miss the place but i am thankful for years of great experiences. happy days to y'all.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: sl on November 25, 2021, 04:16:17 PM
thank you to the moderators for maintaining such a great site for so long and for dealing with so many difficult constituents -- myself included. i'll miss the place but i am thankful for years of great experiences. happy days to y'all.

Can you give me one last insult before the site shuts down?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: dssjh on November 26, 2021, 09:35:18 AM
i suppose i could go classic Monty Python and say "You empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction" before suggesting that "your father smelt of elderberries!" But it's the holidays, and i've actually really enjoyed interacting with you out here over the years. Be well, and happy holidays.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: sl on November 26, 2021, 09:32:51 PM
i suppose i could go classic Monty Python and say "You empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction" before suggesting that "your father smelt of elderberries!" But it's the holidays, and i've actually really enjoyed interacting with you out here over the years. Be well, and happy holidays.
Happy holidays
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: shazza09 on December 03, 2021, 08:03:38 PM
Oh no! I love this JH community forum so much. :(
This website has been a hub of opinions, questions, suggestions and recommendations for as long as I can remember. A very special bond has been created between users and I would hate for that to be lost. So...

I am working on a new forum - Jackson Heights IRL (in real life) at:

www.jacksonheightsirl.com

I am trying to include all the same topics and features of this wonderful site and maybe add a few more. Please share with others so the wonderful community of Jackson Heights can continue to care and support each other online and in real life.

I look forward to seeing you over there to continue sharing news and building a wonderful community - Jackson Heights In Real Life.

Cheers and Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on December 03, 2021, 08:33:58 PM
Hooray!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: toddg on December 05, 2021, 02:01:38 PM
This is wonderful!  I wish you every success.  Please let me know if there is any help you need.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: shazza09 on December 08, 2021, 12:47:36 PM
Hello all,
Unfortunately, I have decided not to go ahead with the Jackson Heights IRL website due to my current workload.
I hope we can continue to connect with each other on:
Reddit: r/jacksonheights https://www.reddit.com/r/jacksonheights/ or r/queens https://www.reddit.com/r/queens and the JHfamilies group on Google https://groups.google.com/g/jhfamilies/about
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: Beech Court on December 08, 2021, 08:11:18 PM
Thank you heartily to all the administrators, past and present, for all the time, dedication and work!

Your efforts were a true gift to us that made this wonderful neighborhood a community.  ;D
Sometimes a divided community BUT everyone had the opportunity to be heard.
I will miss this site.  :(
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: Shelby2 on December 09, 2021, 09:24:45 AM
Thank you heartily to all the administrators, past and present, for all the time, dedication and work!

Your efforts were a true gift to us that made this wonderful neighborhood a community.  ;D
Sometimes a divided community BUT everyone had the opportunity to be heard.
I will miss this site.  :(

Thank you! It's nice to know our efforts were appreciated :)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: ljr on December 09, 2021, 02:43:32 PM
Your efforts were very much appreciated! We found this site very useful and interesting in the 10 years we've lived in JH. Sorry to see it go.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: mrleefromny on December 10, 2021, 12:02:41 AM
Many thanks for all the memories. I first landed here after the Starbucks buzz. Was it covered in the NYT and there was a link in the article here? This board has helped me discover many of the fine cuisines in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: worldwidedeb on December 12, 2021, 08:22:06 PM
So sorry to hear this site is closing. It really is the best option out there. There is Next Door Jackson Heights and several Facebook groups but neither has the breadth of content or as useful a structure. 
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: dd_nyc on December 21, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Sorry to hear the site is closing.
I beg to differ that the forum format has outlived its usefulness. If anything social media like Facebook is the reason why this has still been active, and it is not a favorable alternative after December 31st

If you are unable to continue the domain and website it is certainly understandable and I'm very grateful to have found and referred to JHL.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: dotley on December 24, 2021, 11:15:33 AM
Thank you for all you have done in keeping this neighborhood informed and connected  I am sure it was a very consuming job and truly a labor of love.
This site will be so missed for so many reasons
Thank you again
Have a wonderful holiday and please continue to stay vigilant.  This virus is not done with us yet
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: jonbstrong on December 26, 2021, 06:40:21 PM
Since we haven't heard about archiving options for the site, can we copy some of the "neighborhood FAQs" to this site as a placeholder?

https://reddit.com/r/jacksonheights/new/



specifically, these pages

http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=1640.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=792.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=115.0
http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=38.0

One of the r/jacksonheights/ moderators here - sad to see this site go, and thanks for your suggestion- have added this info to the subreddit wiki https://www.reddit.com/r/jacksonheights/wiki/index
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: jonphilmitch on December 27, 2021, 11:44:15 AM
If anyone is interested, please feel free to join the Jackson Heights Discord server. Discord is a chat platform. It's more akin to the chat rooms of the old days than a forum. It has "servers", which are like little communities. Inside the servers are "channels" for different topics. For example, we have channels for "general", "food and drink", "Meetups", "parking spaces", and "rooms for rent". Discord works in the browser or as a desktop/mobile app. Link to the server: https://discord.gg/YAZt4y8Uhx (https://discord.gg/YAZt4y8Uhx)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: JHL to say goodbye
Post by: jquinty on December 27, 2021, 02:40:18 PM
thank you to this group! I found you upon my return to JH after a two year absence out west.  You got me a sweet gig at Second Story Yoga that I will remember fondly!  See yall on Reddit